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without a kick, can a song still be called trance? (pg. 2)
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| MoSH_MaN |
It all based on a 4/4 beat so ... NO
Cheers ,
/m0sh |
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| Robert |
| quote: | Originally posted by MoSH_MaN
It all based on a 4/4 beat so ... NO
Cheers ,
/m0sh |
what about a 3/3 beat? |
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| tor8024 |
| 3/3 is a measure that does not exist |
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| Nightflowers |
| quote: | Originally posted by tor8024
3/3 is a measure that does not exist |
I think he means 3/4 like Hypetraxx - The darkside |
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| Robert |
3/3 BEAT RECORD by ATTACK
Attack is a production by L-Vee together with his friend Patrick Scaillet. Stepping away from the classic 4/4 beat this is a 3/3 beat or triplet beat record. A hardtrance club stomper.
www.bonzaimusic.com |
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| tor8024 |
| ^^ noticed that too, it is not correct.. |
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| Cobalt |
| I don't think that Composure (Original) and Burned With Desire (Original) qualify as trance. More like chilled electronica. |
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| netw3rkd |
Yes it can. There is no written 'rule' that says trance songs MUST have a kick to be classified in that genre. Take the word trance, what does it mean? It means the following:
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Detachment from one's physical surroundings, as in contemplation or daydreaming.
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Now, if a song can put you into a trance, why not classify it as that? Other songs use kicks, but they aren't classified as trance. Trance is NOT based on a 4/4 based kick. If it were, it would be quite boring wouldnt it? Hearing the same 4/4 kick in every tune. Think chill out / ambient, its a type of trance music, even though some may not agree. So basically, a tune can have no kick, and still be considered trance music, even though the majority would consider it chill out or ambient music. |
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| starglider |
| quote: | Originally posted by netw3rkd
Yes it can. There is no written 'rule' that says trance songs MUST have a kick to be classified in that genre. Take the word trance, what does it mean? It means the following:
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Detachment from one's physical surroundings, as in contemplation or daydreaming.
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Now, if a song can put you into a trance, why not classify it as that? Other songs use kicks, but they aren't classified as trance. Trance is NOT based on a 4/4 based kick. If it were, it would be quite boring wouldnt it? Hearing the same 4/4 kick in every tune. Think chill out / ambient, its a type of trance music, even though some may not agree. So basically, a tune can have no kick, and still be considered trance music, even though the majority would consider it chill out or ambient music. |
Yes, and the word house means "A structure serving as a dwelling for one or more persons, especially for a family." So is that what house music sounds like? What relevance does that have? Absolutely none. Having said that, I think there is some largely beatless music you could classify as trance for lack of a better term. Lots of "chillout" is based on trance tunes and thus doesn't really fall under any other category. Call it ambient trance if you like? Still, most stuff we call chillout has breakbeat components and should probably be called breaks before anything else. Also, "chillout" is not equivalent to ambient and real ambient is most definitely not trance. |
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| netw3rkd |
| Yes, but the word house music has a whole different meaning. Read some music history then post when you find out what the house music genre is about. |
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| DJ Nuclear |
| quote: | Originally posted by Robert
3/3 BEAT RECORD by ATTACK
Attack is a production by L-Vee together with his friend Patrick Scaillet. Stepping away from the classic 4/4 beat this is a 3/3 beat or triplet beat record. A hardtrance club stomper.
www.bonzaimusic.com |
Three beats per measure with each note being 1/3? Huh? I think they meant 3/4. And I think it's only considered a triplet if you use 3/4 notes in the context of a 4/4 song.
Yes, you need kicks every quarter note at some point in the song to be trance. That's pretty much the only rule there is, as well as a standard bpm of roughly 130-150 bpm.
It's like if you produce rock music without guitars and drums, is it really considered rock music anymore...? It is most likely within another different genre/generalization. |
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