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without a kick, can a song still be called trance? (pg. 5)
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| tor8024 |
| quote: | Originally posted by torontotrance
Why do trance songs need a kick?
Ambient trance has no kick |
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ambient has percussion..
it's new age u must be talking about..
trance always has a kick, it's a part of the genre..
ambient and new age have similar elements, but they are not a subgenre of trance, because there's no 4/4 kicks involved.. |
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| Spin Doctor |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shad0wmaster
i think the theory of "trance" music is that the beat is supposed to eventually put you into a trance-like state, and if thats correct then without a beat, a tune couldn't be trance...beatless stuff is ambient. |
Why the hell do producers put these massive long breakdowns with no beat in trance tunes then? Going by your argument looped techno has more claim to being trance than trance does. :conf: |
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| MoSH_MaN |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJDigDug
wavy gravy is a 3/4 u are now owned
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LOL
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
4/4 marks a time signature, not the amount of beats used.
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U got your answer fool... of course not every tune is 4/4 ...
and yeah 4/4 is more common on house by still
trance is layered with a lot of things like synths riffs and more .
But u still need the beat for it...everything begin in the beat |
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| benjamin |
I reply no
It's chill out or lounge ...:rolleyes: |
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| dj_mdma |
i'm sure many people here would regard it as a sort of trance, prolly something like chilled/chill-out trance.
And as for time signatures and beats...
Trance is 4/4. In fact most EDM is 4/4, but the rhythm of the kick can be different, e.g in Drum and Bass.
Burned with Desire still has the same 32 beat phrase structure that trance has. DnB also follows a 32 beat phrase structure. Remember that there is a distinction between the pulse of the music, and the rhythm of the beat. Trance couldn't be 3/4 (i.e waltz time) as the 32 beat phrase structure wouldnt work.
8 x 3 = 24
8 x 4 = 32
you would be a whole 8 beats behind, and would need to have an extra 8 beat phrase to be in sync with all other trance tunes.
A triplet in music is a bit difficult to explain, but i will try :toothless
in 4/4 music, you have 4 crotchets which are worth a beat each
then you have quavers, which are worth half a beat each. so in one bar of 4/4 music you can have 8 quavers.
A triplet is 3 notes in one beat, but the pulse of the music remains the same. Imagine squashing 3 quavers together to make one beat. Something like that. I should know better ways of explaining this since i did music theory :crazy: |
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| teknoking |
| trance needs kicks/claps/hihats otherwise it isn't trance |
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| Gladius |
| lol, im not familiar with these thermes. can anyone explain things like 4/4 etc? =) |
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| smokeape |
I go along with DJDigDug. em...too much math for me.
Ha!!!
{{{smoke}}} |
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| m0sh |
| if you learn piano you know how the beat works |
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| Spin Doctor |
| quote: | Originally posted by teknoking
trance needs kicks/claps/hihats otherwise it isn't trance |
No, it doesn’t. |
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| Arbiter |
It can, but there's usually a more descriptive alternative.
Cheers,
Arbiter |
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