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without a kick, can a song still be called trance? (pg. 4)
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Fundamental
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Originally posted by MoSH_MaN
It all based on a 4/4 beat so ... NO


Cheers ,

/m0sh


What about 'Umek - Gatex'?

No 4/4 beats there.
torontotrance
gatex is techno.
Fundamental
quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
gatex is techno.


Same premise...
torontotrance
really?...why you think that?
Fundamental
quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
really?...why you think that?


Surely techno is more dependant on 4/4 beats than trance.

So what you're basically saying, by challenging my statement, is that it's more common for techno to be beatless than trance now?

Strange.
torontotrance
NO, frankly I did not understand your statement in the beginning, so that is why I asked that question. 4/4 is more common with house but then again producers are innovating and using everything to make songs these days.
Spin Doctor
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Originally posted by torontotrance
gatex is techno.


Gatex is iffy – While I agree it is first and foremost a Techno tune, play it in a trance set properly and it can get away with being trance.

People, in general, take a too exclusivist perspective with trance which is why there is so much bitching about how “it was better back in the day” and that very few good trance songs are being made.

Tunes with out a beat sure can be called trance.
teknoking
yeah
Shad0wmaster
i think the theory of "trance" music is that the beat is supposed to eventually put you into a trance-like state, and if thats correct then without a beat, a tune couldn't be trance...beatless stuff is ambient.
Christopher B
truly, any music that has the power to take my mind to a different place I consider trance music, but if its the more conventional definitions you are looking at, no not really. The only "trance" song I could see being considered trance without any drumbeats is a track that you would lay over the top of something else, like an a capella

DJDigDug
quote:
Originally posted by MoSH_MaN
It all based on a 4/4 beat so ... NO


Cheers ,

/m0sh

wavy gravy is a 3/4 u are now owned
as for a 0/0 that is ambient techno aka chillout

i think people spend to much time whoring genres, do you like, then listen to it genres em with a big long jagged wooden stick
Mr.Mystery
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Originally posted by DJDigDug
wavy gravy is a 3/4 u are now owned
as for a 0/0 that is ambient techno aka chillout


Umm... don't use terms like that.
4/4 marks a time signature, not the amount of beats used.

And Wavy Gravy isn't even trance.
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