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American English (pg. 8)
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| Delay Llama |
It's quite stupid to argue on what's wrong about American English when you're not from United States, because you have a completely different linguistic background, even if English is your native language.
These differences are mainly influenced by society and identity, which are very important for human beings. Therefore, you can not consider them as "superior" or "inferior" to your own standards, because they're blatantly distinct.
Astroboy, I'm quoting you just because I couldn't find a similar post, but if I did, I would quote other people too :)
| quote: | Originally posted by astroboy
Verbal mannerisms that annoy me (not all American):
Herbs pronounced as "urbs" - the "h" is not silent.
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The h-dropping is a common phenomenom in English language and is an important factor to distinguish different dialects (as important as pronouncing the "r" or not, in the word "herbs").
| quote: | Originally posted by astroboy
"o" as in 'shopping' or 'college' gets pronounced the same as "a" as in father... they're different sounds FFS! When you pronounce an "o" make your mouth round like an o. |
This is also a main characteristic of many North American dialects: this is just like arguing whether there's an "f" in "lieutenant"... North Americans will say "lootenant" or something like that.
| quote: | Originally posted by astroboy
When people pronounce white as "hhhhhwite". The bloody "h" is silent, and even if it wasn't it would be "whhhite" not "hhhhwite". |
This is called hyper-correction: because h-dropping is usual in some dialects, some people tend to pronounce it everytime they see it, in order to avoid all the prejudice that exists against h-droppers. |
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| TiestoFanMatt |
| quote: | Originally posted by arctic
One of the stupidest things i've ever read on ta. Firstly, you by no means 'own criket', you're at it. Australia wipe you off the field every time, and the world cup is rarely held in england. The governing body controls where the wc is held/who plays etc. That body is comprised of representatives from all the test/od playing nations, and I believe is currently led by an Australian.
As for rugby, which country is the only team to win two wcs (AUstralia ;)). Admittedly you did say that you aren't good at thugby, so i;ll move on to the 'where is the wc being held right now? Oh yes, Australia of course.
Still confused as to how you 'own' either sport or dictate who plays in the wcs :conf: |
In terms of Cricket, we are playing allot better at the moment. I always thought the World Cup and where it is held is rotated. We have been quite for a while at Cricket, but there is an improvement. Rugby, we have been knocked off the top of the World Rankings to no.2. New Zealand being 1st, and we are in the semi final. We beat Australia for the first time IN A LONG WHILE on their soil this year, and we have a brilliant player named Jonny Wilkinson. Football, well we have always had a decente team, and with a team at the moment that we have, got a good chance of winning Euro2004. We dont own them maybe, but sport is drastically improveing in our country imo
BTW The world cup was aheld bout 4 years ago in england i think it was (i aint a big cricket fan lol so dont count me on this). |
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| blazed it |
| quote: | Originally posted by Delay Llama
This is also a main characteristic of many North American dialects: this is just like arguing whether there's an "f" in "lieutenant"... North Americans will say "lootenant" or something like that.
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ok the rest of your post was cool, but wheres the f in lieutenant?
i love your sig btw.... it's hilarious! |
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| Delay Llama |
| quote: | Originally posted by blazed it
ok the rest of your post was cool, but wheres the f in lieutenant? |
It can be pronounced as "lefttenant". If it doesn't seem to make sense, remember that we're speaking about a language in which "fish" can be spelled as "ghoti"
(for those of you who had never seen this example:
gh in tough sounds like f
o in women sounds like i
ti in nation sounds like sh
there you go... fish = ghoti).
| quote: | Originally posted by blazed it
i love your sig btw.... it's hilarious! |
Thank you :) |
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| BigDil |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardstyle
i only learned English for 4 years .
Oh by the way , in my language we have more words what i can not stand , then in the American English.
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Are you hungarian? What are some of those words you can't stand? :)
Since when do you live in the States?
Anyway, I think your points don't make too much sense, as your native language is not English. |
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Delay Llama
This is called hyper-correction: because h-dropping is usual in some dialects, some people tend to pronounce it everytime they see it, in order to avoid all the prejudice that exists against h-droppers. |
This is the only pronunciation that really makes no sense to me. Fair enough, there's an h there, so people can pronounce it if they want, but it is clearly after the w not before.
PS - none of these really annoy me I was just being silly, I realise the subjective nature of pronunciation and dialects etc... I still don't like the "literally" thing tho... that's just incorrect usage.
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Delay Llama
It can be pronounced as "lefttenant". |
That's because its a French word isn't it?... Damn French roots... grumble grumble |
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| Delay Llama |
| quote: | Originally posted by astroboy
That's because its a French word isn't it?... Damn French roots... grumble grumble |
Exactly| quote: | Originally posted by astroboy
but it is clearly after the w not before |
They're supposed to be spoken at the same time (the aspiration "h" while your mouth is round "w"), which gives the impression that the "w" comes after the "h". The "w" can't be pronounced before the "w" because it indicates a dipthong (so it needs another vowel). |
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| hardstyle |
| quote: | Originally posted by BigDil
Are you hungarian? What are some of those words you can't stand? :)
Since when do you live in the States?
Anyway, I think your points don't make too much sense, as your native language is not English. |
Ok " gadzsi, buksza, faszom, csajszi, krapek, manusz, cigany magyar
:wtf: :nervous:
5 eve |
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| .montecarlo. |
| quote: | Originally posted by Delay Llama
This is called hyper-correction: because h-dropping is usual in some dialects, some people tend to pronounce it everytime they see it, in order to avoid all the prejudice that exists against h-droppers. |
those damn h-droppers :whip:
lol |
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| hardstyle |
| quote: | Originally posted by .montecarlo.
those damn h-droppers :whip:
lol |
Ok , once this guy told me," English don't speak proper English, and they should come to this country and learn how to speak English properly."
I think that was the main idea of my post.
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardstyle
Ok " gadzsi, buksza, faszom, csajszi, krapek, manusz, cigany magyar
:wtf: :nervous:
5 eve |
Hungarian is the weirdest language ever... Does anyone know where it actually comes from? It isn't really similar to any other language in the region... its like an alien language or something :toothless *cue X-files music*
PS - does "cigany magyar" have something to do with gypsies? |
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