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Why do we stay on turntables? (pg. 7)
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| montie |
| quote: | Originally posted by VaNFeCto
You know honestly I think its easier to make a production and then start youre djing career than just trying dj ure way to the top, and of course with any thing involving show biz to speak it involves knowing the right the people, but I still think those who took the time to master it no matter how bad theyre style or choice of music is I rather that than some kid sitting at his comp thinking hes the next PvD. |
i agree i'd much rather see some person banging turntables.
the scene where you find kids producing live on their laptops is mainly IDM, and i'm sure most of htem would rather be dead then considered a PvD :p
but it adds a whole new dimension to things. its not just sitting htere in traktor mixing mp3 to mp3 they are making hte music right then and there. BT mixs live off his laptop in most of his performances. its pretty crazy. its sorta just like seeing a band rock out where each person just goes on and follows the other players and feels the crowd and goes from there. |
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| Matty V |
The use of computers and computerised equipment is inevitable in this day and age and there is gunna be no escaping it. Personally i prefer to see a DJ use vinyl than computerised equipment
To me mixing on your computer just feels like lazy DJing. Get off your arse and put some effort into it on your decks!! :D |
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| forsakend |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clyde77
turntables or stfu |
well said ;) |
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| King_Mack |
| quote: | Originally posted by jdjd
You guys are completely missing his point...
He's saying that he can mix as good as tiesto or pvd or whoever with this equipment, so it doesnt matter how much of a hard-on you have for turntables, this technology makes those guys obsolete... its old news really...
I agree though, big name superstar dj's will be a thing of the past... |
not necessarily
for example, the big reason why I fell in love with Tiesto wasnt his mixing skill, but his track selection. Not a lot of people can play the right track at the right time, simple as that.
And, as someone else mentioned, DJing is much more than switching from one song to the other.... |
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| Aldrian |
i myself have traktor and bpm music studio 4. traktor is really easy to use and i love it to death but like you said one channel of mixing.
bpm studio 4 is hard to use. can't beatmatch or anything.
so is traktor still a good one or should i look elsewhere for more versatility on pc djing.
oh and your question about why dj stick with turntables is cause it is what djing is all about. you want to see the turntables being worked. i myself don't want to see a dj using his only laptop for playing the tunes. |
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| Spin Doctor |
| quote: | Originally posted by DeleriuM2K
be like me!
use the latest technology and keep it oldschool!
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You’ve got all that gear but you can’t afford a bigger table? :( |
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| NinetyNinety |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spin Doctor
You’ve got all that gear but you can’t afford a bigger table? :( |
You know? I thought about the exact same thing...
And by the way, I think that a Dj mixing ONLY with a computer is like a Classic guitar player using a pc program in which he uses just the keyboard to input the music (because someone said that he prefers the song selection...) and the pc plays it. I mean, where's the physical ability involved? Where are those fast, abile fingers? In the RAM-Memory? Hell no!
And, have you noticed that 90% of the people who have posted a message have agreed that the best (and only) way to go is using turntables? I don't even know why we post replies if we all know the answer... ;) |
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| Zombie14 |
| i personally wouldnt go clubbing to see a big dj like tiesto, pvd, or avb just to watch them sit there and mix with their computers. |
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| jdjd |
| quote: | Originally posted by King_Mack
not necessarily
for example, the big reason why I fell in love with Tiesto wasnt his mixing skill, but his track selection. Not a lot of people can play the right track at the right time, simple as that.
And, as someone else mentioned, DJing is much more than switching from one song to the other.... |
This is another thing.. do you guys really believe that Tiesto is thinking: "I bet the crowd would really love to hear XXX right now!"??
I highly doubt it.. they go to a venue knowing what the crowd expects from them, knowing the style of the place, and have a tracklist set up already, maybe make a few adjustments...
Look at the tracklists of the big name dj's tours, especially someone like Pvd or Armin.. very similar sets..
And it doesnt take a musical genious to compile a tracklist of good tunes... |
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| umes23 |
yes, DJs if they have anything to offer do understand a little something about selecting the right track at teh right moment. its not tiesto thinking what will the crowd like. its tiesto being a dj and it is his job to make the people dance...and the best way to be able to do this is to have the knack for reading a crowd, feeling the energy, understanding what kind of track would work well for the moment, to stir things up or build to a climactic moment.... its all timing.
djs who play anthems and have no clue about timing are the worst and also proof that being able to drop the right track when the moment calls for it, is not a skill a DJ can miss lack and still be good!
turntables are original and superior. as for the digital age, the methodology of mixing via the turntable still remains the best way, because that is what disc jockeying is... not programming a computer to do mixes at such and such time. it is about on the spot mixing, creating flow... a DJ is like a travel guide... he takes you on a ride or on a tour, but it is interactive. so much of it belongs to the moment. the turntable setup allows for this perfectly and for digital music, it is that technology that allows for the same conventional method to be used that is the best (final scratch, pioneer cdj 1000s etc )
turntables foreva! |
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| Pheobius |
sorry i haven't replied sooner but i've had no access to a pc
anyway, i can see why ppl think turntables are better, but i really don't care if i paid £20 to see a dj who used software because in the end if i don't notice i don't care.
I do admit that i think 99% of successful DJing is track selection and i also admit that my own track selection is quite e
The reason i actually got traktyor in the first place was to mix my own CD's rather than buying comp discs but it did challenge my perceptions of good DJing. Oh well, thats my thoughts on the subject. |
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| Rooger |
Come on, would anybody of you pay 20£ to see a rock band if they just sat still on the stage, doing nothing, while their CD was played out loud?
Off course not, even though the studio recording might sound technically better than their live performance.
But that's what it's all about, the performance. The DJ has a big influence on the crowd, if he just sat still behind his laptop, he wouldn't cheer the crowd as much.
Mp3 mixing can sound very good, though very clinical. I used mp3 mixing some years ago, before I could afford turntables, and I would never use an mp3 mixing program for a live set. |
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