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Planning to got o US, need some advice :) (pg. 2)
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Nadi
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Originally posted by St_Andrew
forgot to write in my last post, if i attend to high school i will be placed somewhere by an organisation so i have no idea if i will be placed in a good or a bad state.. but with collage i can choose.

i'm not sure but i think i can fix to get into one of these "better" classes, i'm above average in sweden at least...


Try to take honors classes. If you take something more difficult than required the students and teachers are much more likely to care about the class, and it will be much better. It's true that much of our schools suck, but its not incredibly difficult to find good classes and its not too dificult to find people who you get along with.
Perfect_Cheezit
In my experience, the high school thing isn't exactly worth it. We had 2 swedish foreign exchange students at my high school in Minnesota (Midwest, fairly wealthy suburb of Minneapolis), and it is a good school, but regardless of whether they were smart or not, they were there basically just for decoration so to speak. The teachers never took them seriously and insisted they not be placed in accelerated classes due to Swedish being their 1st language (and trust me these kids were NOT bad at English).

Wait for college, seriously I can almost promise you it will be a better experience and you wont have to go to school another year when you get back to Sweden.
Chris d(-_-)b
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Originally posted by placebo
And not only that, but America is filled with hot chicks.



Sorry to say but i don't find that very accurate. I've been there like 10 times for a period of a month or so and i can't say i'm impressed. I got the idea from the movies that US is filled with chicks but it actually is different, at least in FL. Or where were all the chicks hiding?
Slylee
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Originally posted by Perfect_Cheezit
In my experience, the high school thing isn't exactly worth it. We had 2 swedish foreign exchange students at my high school in Minnesota (Midwest, fairly wealthy suburb of Minneapolis), and it is a good school, but regardless of whether they were smart or not, they were there basically just for decoration so to speak. The teachers never took them seriously and insisted they not be placed in accelerated classes due to Swedish being their 1st language (and trust me these kids were NOT bad at English).

Wait for college, seriously I can almost promise you it will be a better experience and you wont have to go to school another year when you get back to Sweden.


i agree...i had this foreign exchange student from brazil in my psychology class (senior year) and no one took her seriously. they (most of the girls) actually snubbed her because she was so pretty and nice. she just always seemed lost and depressed. i felt bad so i got to know her and it turned out she was a really awesome chick. she partied a lot in brazil and i offerred to take her clubbing in ft. lauderdale but she wasn't old enough...she had her sister mail her fake i.d. from brazil and we went and had a blast. she probably didn't get much out of going to a public high school in america. the teachers didn't give her any special attention. but at least she got to see the nightlife of south florida which is always important:)
DaveSaenz
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Originally posted by St_Andrew
okay i need some advice :)

I'm planning to go to US to study for one (possibly more) year(s). I have been offered to go next year to study high school and live in an american family. That would coast me 5700 USD including food, school fees, etc, yeah everything except entertainment stuff. But the disadvantage of this is that:

I have heard that high school is a ty education (true?).
The Swedish high school system doesn't "care" that i have stuied there so i have to study one extra year in Sweden.

But i would learn English, which is one of the main reasons for going to US.

The second alternative is to go to study at collage/university when i have finished Swedish high school. But that would coast a lot! approximately 19 000 USD (at least in the schools i was looking at, i don't know maybe you have better proposals? (it was included with school fees, and living coasts)) for one year, compared with about 7000 USD in Sweden for university (no fees needed to pay in sweden, so that's just living coasts). And one good thing with to study at US university is that Swedish universities does count some of it so i don't have to read everything all over again when i come home to sweden (of course i can also graduate in US but that would also coast a lot)

My parents will pay high school for me, and for collage/university i can get "student loans" from the Swedish government but it is not that fun to own the government money...

So what should i do? hopefully you know a lot more about this then me :p


I would defo choose college over high school if you can afford it.
And, make sure you don't end up in a rural place like Oklahoma or Nebraska, or some boring place like that. Unless of course, you're like me, and you enjoy nature and hiking, photography, and that kind of thing. But still, I have to balance my nature with some fun city life! Even Texas and Louisiana are better than Oklahoma, because there are large cities with things to do. Houston and New Orleans have strong and growing EDM scenes for example. You should go to a state/region where people are more open and accepting of different people, and you will have a better experience. Personally, my favorite American city that I've been to is San Francisco, but it's so damn expensive to find an apartment there.

Monc, you are right about the "honors," "AP" vs. "regular" classes. The teachers suck in the regular classes, and they are filled with goofs. Also, the funding of many public schools is inadequate, though my high school was one of the better public high schools in the city. The AP and honors teachers were better than some of the college profs I've had. George W. Bush's daughters were also enrolled at the same high school I attended when he was elected, if you can believe that. :disbelief :whip:

P.S. Our government under president Carter was moving to switch to the metric system, but then that never happened for a reason, of which, I have no idea. So, I believe we are the only modern country in the world that still uses the illogical and idiotic British system of measurement. I mean, come on, if Mexico can switch we can! Even the British don't really use it anymore I don't think hah. In our science courses, and also in the military I believe, they do use the metric system. Basically it would cost billions to change every street sign in the country, and I think many people are too lazy to learn. That, and half the population would say it's "communism," or some other such nonsense.

Dave:D
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The main questions here are where do you plan on attending a high school and what kind of curriculum are they offering? Do not, repeat, do not accept something less than a Magnet School for the gifted. I have a son in there and he is challenged, whereas I have a son in a regular school who is causing me problems with drugs, rock and roll, and the normal teenage blight. American high schools can be like colleges almost these days; the ones that offer quality education and the ones that will get you a job at Hardee's. If your parents are going to spend their hard earned bucks to send you to an American school, No. 1 - Hooah, best thing for their future, and No. 2 - They want some return on the investment. Inner city and run of the mill high schools don't cut it. A far better investment would be in a quality college vice a bull high school. Be very, very careful in wasting dollars on a high school that doesn't really count for anything in this world. Degrees count and I've got three of them!
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DaveSaenz
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Originally posted by PHALPAX
In respect to the high school question, it depends where you are in the country. A high school education wouldn't be all that great in a poorer part of the U.S. (Southern States) compared to a richer part of the country (West Coast & North Eastern areas), and I'm being very general when talking about rich and poor sections of the country (thank you capitalism).



I don't think you can really generalize by saying only Southern public schools are poor, and West, East Coast schools are rich. There are still very rich and very poor schools within a city like New York or LA. In fact I'd rather have gone to the worst public high school in Austin, Texas over the worst public school in LA, because the "worst" school in Austin still has a science academy. In the worst LA school, I'd be afraid of getting shot everyday walking to school. Also Austin is like the Berkeley California of the South in terms of the people, so it's really pretty nice here. I was lucky to have grown up here.


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Originally posted by Chris d(-_-)b
Sorry to say but i don't find that very accurate. I've been there like 10 times for a period of a month or so and i can't say i'm impressed. I got the idea from the movies that US is filled with chicks but it actually is different, at least in FL. Or where were all the chicks hiding?


It scares me that people from other countries get their ideas of America from Hollywood and Michael Moore. :stongue: I'll tell you though, right now, this country isn't about the people anymore. It's all about big money and special interests that control the country. I hope this changes soon however. Hmm, my high school was full of hot chicks, but everywhere is different I suppose. It's also possible Swedish girls are hotter, or your preference is different. It's all about a person's mind and heart anyways, because it doesn't really matter if someone is beautiful on the outside, if they are a callous bitch on the inside.

Again, if you can afford it, come here for a year of college. High School in America is often so cliquish and fake to the point of being irritating. Even so, I'm sure you can find some nice people, but college/uni would be much better. It would be nice to be near the Mexican or Canadian border, so you can also visit one of those countries.

This site is helpful:

http://www.princetonreview.com/?popup=no

You can find the percentage of Int. students at a particular college or uni, but that shouldn't really matter as long as you go to a school with a heterogeneous, diverse, accepting student body.

By the way, I'm also having a bit of a quarter life crisis myself in regards to my future.:nervous:
Galapidate
Why would you ever want to come to this hole?!?
Poncho
bring toilet paper.
wienerschnitzel
erik, this is the plan....

come and move to canada and you can go to school in calgary where i will be attending school. you can live with me and in return you will become my personal swedish massuse. deal?

DaveSaenz
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Originally posted by Galapidate
Why would you ever want to come to this hole?!?



Translation: "Don't come to Jersey unless you want to see the green glowing wildlife."
Leathal_Karnage
For high school advice I leave that for the Americans, but for college I highly recommend the education there, if your looking at it in a financial way as a foreigner the costs for state universities and private colleges are not that much of a difference (but for the locals it is) but that also depends on the college u r looking at, for me I tried both. In state universities your r more of a number its more of your effort all the way with large classes but in private colleges the classes r smaller and they give the helping hand when u slack around. As for me college life has been great so far, social life has been good, Americans are very helpful and very corrupting as well:disbelief:disbelief(damn those Americans:D:D)made lots friends who I will always have for life, well its a life experience, but Seriously i'm over it cant wait to get real money. so whats wrong with paying the government back the funding? for me it turned out to be a big asset got a job waiting for me as soon as I graduate, cant wait!!!
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