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| dukes |
on what basis do people think technicks are by far and away the best!!
this concept is soooo wrong!
just coz they last years and years and are relyable makes them best?!?!?! other decks suck as TTX's, STANTON STR8150,VESTAX PDX2x00 all (at least) just as good as any techs!! these decks have not been around long enough for people to know if they last a milion years. just coz every club uses them everyone neads them. wow like its soooo hard to get used to a differant deck!
come on people open your eyes to the newer technology that is out there and much much better! |
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| Vero |
so tell me what is so much much better about the TTs you mention? because they are digital, because they have BPM counters on them. im not tryin to start another turntable war here, but it sounds like you certainly are.
you know what, im not even gonna try to explain this to you. but you really souldnt get on here, and disrespect a turntable that probably 75% of the DJs on here own, use, and love like they are their children.
if you know, you know.
if you dont, you dont.
STFU! |
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| djskylz |
So, like Vero said, give me 1 good reason why i should switch tables... I have my techs for 3 years now, and i love to mix with them, they do the trick. I've read some specs of those tables, and some tables are faster at the desirable speed (33/1/3, 45 rpm). But i don't need that, my techs are fast enough. Some tables have more torque, but the 1,2 kg/s is for me good enough. I want to play records, not elephants, and if you really need so much torque, you should think off slipmatts. Some tables are able to do +/- 100% pitch, but i am not interested in mixing beethoven & don diablo at the same moment. So although those tables have "bigger" specs then the techs, it is not neccesary better. I just mean, techs is a feeling, a way of life. If it's not yours, so it be, but i don't think anybody will change decks if he/she has the decks he/she loves.
Cheers, Maarten |
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| borron |
Technics mk2 may not be the best nowadays, infact it may be the worst of the "high-end" turntables. Nonetheless, it's the standard, the ones you'll find in 90% of the clubs. So why learn on anything better than that? And it's the cheapest of the high-end ones.
If it's the standard, go with the standard. Especially if the standard is cheaper. That's how i think.
Now if i become a big dj with lots of money :cool: :D :happy2: :tongue3 :p then i'll probably buy a PDX2000 or the STR-150, which are the ones i would like to have the most (i hate TT's with displays). But of course i'll keep my technics, i'm falling in love with them and probably they will last till i'm 60 :toocool: |
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| dukes |
ok maybe i explained badly im mainly slating the whole bandwagon thing that techs have. the amount of people ive spoke to who slate me for saying "technics are good but not as far and away the best" as they seem to think is amazing.
yes once you get to that price range then everything is just fine and dandy and any deck will do. but when people say "what are the best decks" they should really be saying "what are everyones preferable decks" and that is what i was meaning.
see what im (trying) to get at? |
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| ezbeats |
| quote: | if you know, you know.
if you dont, you dont.
STFU! |
thanks vero, took the words from my mouth.
maybe numark will make a new tt that has a hot coco maker built in, packets of powder chocolate mix included. then this topic would be truley obsolete. :crazy: |
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| punchline |
I have MK2s
I love them
I have no reason to want anything else, even the new fancier M5Gs
Advanced technology doesn't make up for a long history of reliability. I have mixed on lots of different turntables( TTx1s, Geminis, Str8) Most of them are really good. They will never be as good as MK2s however. Technics has spent 20 years on the MK2 earning it a reputation for reliability, and good craftsmanship. When these other tables have been around that long and have that reputation, then I'll change my opinion (Of course, the MK2 will have been around for 40 years by then :) ).
And besides, what's the point of all these newer gadgets on tables anyway. No pitch notch is the only one that I have seen of any use, and I modded my MK2s to do that. Digital readout? When you get really good your ears are more accurate. Pitch bend? Useful for adjusting the track playing on the floor, but not necessary.
There are even tables with a 78RPM setting now. 78 RPM records havn't been popular for a really long time. Something like that is added to a table simply to raise the price. The next time I want to play a track that is only available on a 78RPM single I will consider a new table. |
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| Dervish |
| I think Dukes is just saying that people who say things like "Technics are best everything else is ". Which does happen. I mean I don't know if you need all the torque the better signal to noise ratio or the digital readouts of for example the TTX's. But what I will say is why do you spend twice as much on a mixer twice as much on carts to get the best SNR then connect it to decks with a lower SNR than the best. And if SNR isn't important get yourself a set of Sound Labs and some mixer. Fair enough maybe the issue is build quality but you don't get a high SNR without high build quality. So when you say whats the best to assume Technics as many do is wrong...........which is what Dukes said at the start I belive. |
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| Freak |
"if it isnt broken, dont fix it"
Thats precisely why technics are the best professional turntable on the market....
They do what they do extremely well, and have done so for many years.
They do it reliably
They do it accurately
They are the standard- everything else is simply an emulation of it- people have been trying to better them for years and havent been successful so far...
In my djing career i have had the pleasure of using a hell of a lot of different pieces of equipment, more than most on here, and in a variety of different settings and venues. Technics is the common factor in a lot of these.
Vestax feel horrible (straight tonearm is horrid and the platter is shockingly bad)
Numark to me isnt professional dj equipment
In fact the only real innovation i have seen in turntable technology is the new ones with pitch key function ( a>d>a) but even that seems a bit pointless for obvious reasons, and the rest of the turntable doesnt seem up to much.
I would take a pair of mk2 1200s over ANY other turntable (including mk5Gs)
Just my opinion, but i know i am not alone in that thinking. |
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| Vlad |
| If Tech's arent the best, why is it every single tt companies job to try to beat them out? I have mk2's and if I could afford an upgrade or maybe just add a 3rd tt to my setup it would me a mk5. If something has been around for decades and for decades companies cant beat them, wouldnt you consider them the best? |
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| Dervish |
| quote: | Originally posted by Freak
"if it isnt broken, dont fix it"
In fact the only real innovation i have seen in turntable technology is the new ones with pitch key function ( a>d>a) but even that seems a bit pointless for obvious reasons, and the rest of the turntable doesnt seem up to much.
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I know it's just your opion but "if it ain't broke don't fix it"? Whats the point in any inovation then? Flint and bits of wood work but electricty is better. As for saying key (or key shifting & harmonic mixing) isn't important I can't belive you mean that. |
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| Freak |
If i want to mix harmonically i can do it perfectly fine thank you
I meant the turntable (stanton jobby) that converts the signal to digital and then back to analogue before the output that enables you to timestretch/compress the tune....
ie. it lets you adjust speed only and leaves the pitch unaffected...
The cd players i sometimes use have that function turned off and i cant see a need for it on vinyl to be honest.....much the same as most of the add on crap gadgets that seem to crop up nowadays |
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