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SuperSaw in V-Station (pg. 4)
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| ccpurno |
C-quence... fellow dutchman,
posting this very good sample and then
being mysterious about it :crazy:
Comeone, give us some more details
-application in which the synth was built
-maybe screenshot
No need to be paranoid here i think, we only
want to learn ... :gsmile:
Greetings CCPURNO |
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| trancenrg69 |
| The c-quence sample still doesn't compare to rbk1's jp8080. Comeone guys, listen carefully, software sound ummm like software. Hardware sounds better. Rb2k's version has crisp highs, detailed lows , and c-quences sounds like almost every software synth ive heard. It lacks detail,and has muddy lows. Maybe your ears are not trained too hear the differences, but with that said, if your song rules, doesnt matter if you use hardware or software, it'll sound good. but! if you want your tune to stand above the rest , hardware is the way to go. look if software sounded as good as hardware zeta would be 500$ like the powercore virus , not less than 200.hardware rules! if you could download a nordlead3 on kazaa nobody would be even talking about software. |
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| Trancevision |
| quote: | Originally posted by C-quence
Doesn't matter which program, have made almost exactly the same sound with Reason. It's all about the brains of the producer, not the program. |
that's nice bla bla bla...It is obvious that someone who knows what he is doing will get in most cases get besser results than a newbie.
I thinkt that today's softsynths can create awesome sounds and can imitate all the electronic sounds which are used in trance / techno...
| quote: | Originally posted by trancenrg69
Rb2k's version has crisp highs, detailed lows , and c-quences sounds like almost every software synth ive heard. It lacks detail,and has muddy lows. Maybe your ears are not trained too hear the differences, but with that said, if your song rules, doesnt matter if you use hardware or software, it'll sound good. but! if you want your tune to stand above the rest , hardware is the way to go.
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The difference is in quality and clearness in sound.
C-quence's example sounds like superstring like nothing else I have heard before from a softsynth and on several forums so many people try to recreate this supersaw. But although the character of the sound is very similar to the orginal, it lecks brightness and clearness.
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| TranceMasterUk |
| quote: | Originally posted by BassAngel
I've heard the Guyver samples trancemaster was talking about and they kick absolute arse - they were the reason I bought Vaz2010 in the first place.
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thank you
ill try to find these samples
or ill ask guy if he still has them.
C-quence amazing sample, best one out of this whole thread. |
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| C-quence |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trancevision
But although the character of the sound is very similar to the orginal, it lecks brightness and clearness.
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You want it more bright? You'll have it tonight ;) |
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| trancenrg69 |
| quote: | The difference is in quality and clearness in sound.
C-quence's example sounds like superstring like nothing else I have heard before from a softsynth and on several forums so many people try to recreate this supersaw. But although the character of the sound is very similar to the orginal, it lecks brightness and clearness. |
Yeah i know it has better quality and a clearer sound. That's what I was saying in my post. Why u repeating what i already said. You think I'm dumb or something. |
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| Trancevision |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancenrg69
Yeah i know it has better quality and a clearer sound. That's what I was saying in my post. Why u repeating what i already said. You think I'm dumb or something. |
:rolleyes: :gsmile:
| quote: | Originally posted by c-quence
You want it more bright? You'll have it tonight |
Cool. Lookin forward to it. :gsmile:
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| DC- |
EDIT: Due to a mistake in the midi I've used, the sound is not exactly true to the original because the velocity on the lower chords was lowered thus throwing the sound off.
C-Quence: What is the point of you posting the sample if you aren't willing to share how you got the sound with everybody else? Not only that, but you aren't even willing to mention what tools you used, very lame bro.
Now, this sound is overly simple to do and just to prove it, I am posting examples done with 3 different synths, as well as the individual patches, but remember, getting that right sound is very dependant on proper equalization and effects. The original has a funky delay that fills up quite a bit of space, I wasn't able to properly reproduce it but I wasn't exactly trying hard enough.
Enough bull, here are the files
Supersaw with VStation:
http://members.rogers.com/dc-/supersaw_vstation.mp3
Patch in VStations native file format (.mid, use the import function)
http://members.rogers.com/dc-/vstation.zip
Supersaw with Superwave P8:
http://members.rogers.com/dc-/supersaw_p8.mp3
Patch in FXP format
http://members.rogers.com/dc-/p8.zip
Supersaw with Synth 1 (What did I say synth1?!?! You damn diggity I did :)
NOTE: This patch consists of 3 layers because synth1 is only a 2 OSC synth, simply load 3 instances of synth1 and load each layer and make sure the channel volume is consistent in all 3.
http://members.rogers.com/dc-/supersaw_synth1.mp3
Patch in Synth1s native format
http://members.rogers.com/dc-/synth1.zip
And at last, the original sound, taken from the mp3 rip.
http://members.rogers.com/dc-/supersaw_original.mp3
Enjoy!
UPDATE:
I decided to recreate the patch using Discovery and Pro53, so here they are:
Discovery Supersaw:
http://members.rogers.com/dc-/supersaw_discovery.mp3
This patch utilizes the 4 layer option and it may be CPU extensive, so beware. It comes in FXP format.
http://members.rogers.com/dc-/discovery.zip
Pro53 Supersaw:
http://members.rogers.com/dc-/supersaw_pro53.mp3
http://members.rogers.com/dc-/pro53.zip
You'll need 4 instances of Pro-53 loaded, each with a seperate octave because once you active the unison feature you lose polyphony. |
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| Haak |
i prefer the ones DC- did so far, especially the superwave p8 one.
but yeah, who wants to use those stab synths anyway, they're so overused and they weren't that great to begin with hehe |
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| thecYrus |
hey DC- nice job!
i hear them now on crappy notebook speakers only.. but i'll listen to them on my genelecs.. but so far i prefer the synth1. the p8 is missing some bass (sure you could still eq it.. but the synth1 has more power)
| quote: | Originally posted by Haak
but yeah, who wants to use those stab synths anyway, they're so overused and they weren't that great to begin with hehe |
hehe, yes.. but for sweeps and pads are such supersaws perfect!
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after listening on my monitors i've changed my opinion and prefer the p8 and the v-station sample! |
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| ccpurno |
DC,
Now, that's what I call synth programming!
Getting that sound from synth-1 is proving the
point that it's not the synth but the programmer that
makes the difference.
I liked the V-station the best.
I notice you used external effects. May I ask which ones?
And what's the eq secret here?
Boosting some narrow bands or using a notch filter or something?
Greetings CCPURNO |
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| Klangzentrum |
hey DC,
Cool stuff! this is what i call a usefull post!
Thx, dude!!!
very nice of you to share! |
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