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| Seric |
I'd enjoy more open optimism towards some of the new kids in electronic music. Trance snobs and their sanctioned dogmatic recursive computational procedure for what they think is trance, always trying to enlighten us all as to how our music is incorrect for it's genre. Funny. What is with all of the formula-bangers? When will people wake up to the reality that alot of us are redundantly writing the same damn , and chastising those with fresh minds? What happened to innovation? Or is that the big defensive tactic? It's depressing to see so many "artists" on a site like this acting like insider children.
Let's just all take a moment to remember that the #1 cardinal ing rule is: Don't talk about fight club. (Wait, no, I was thinking of something else.)
The cardinal ing rule is this: There are no ing rules.
When it comes to expression, musically or otherwise, have at it.
This is positively reinforced by the true definition of the term "trance" as a theory applied to music. I highly recommend this as reading to some of you. |
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| alanzo |
...what? I think this has been discussed before.. someone started bitching about how trance was all the same and then a crap load of people replied.. - here's my reply:
ALL music is alike.. without similarities we wouldn't have that little thing called "Genres" - all rap is basically the same (garbage :) ) all classical is basically the same, all heavy metal is basically the same.. there all genre's of music.. so quit yer' bitchin! |
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| alanzo |
| Side Note: You're music is good but it isn't exactly breaking through any walls of experimentation.. it's basically just Psy Trance so I don't see what you're arguing about.. :whip: |
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| Seric |
All rap is garbage. Right. Well I'm reall glad that you're so open with your ignorance. The validity of your arguement sort of liberates itself from you when you presuppose like that. I guess that in your eyes all music is the same. Well, that's cool. That's you, and I'm not saying that you're not an integral part of the whole scene, be it narrow or expansive.
[Sidenote- Classical.. all the same.. I sincerely wish that everyone had the capacity to enjoy the ingenius of classical music. When I listen to classical music, there are more transcendental worlds traversing my mind than could be published in 100 volumes. Same with jazz, and for some people, rap.]
I'm really not so into putting up some huge dignified defence on the internet, it seems like a huge waste of my time, and in this case, as with the stated ignorance I'm not even going to begin with my own music. Good job on the personal attack thing though, that's real big of you. Next time though, when you want to lump someones personal music into a genre, like you think all music should be lumped into genres, try listening to it all first to make sure that a large enough percentage of the songs are stylistically consistant enough to earn the title of a genre (which mine don't.. for instance, the one you probabyl did listen to was Copenhagen Interpretation and that hardly even has a kick, let alone a Goa kick.. But you should know all about genres).
Second of all, There are two reasons why I wouldn't post my really wild explorative music online. One would be because every 250 kilobytes theres a guy like you. Second of all, every 350 kilobytes theres a formula humper that's going to create progeny with your (My) intellectual property.
Take care
-Eric |
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| alanzo |
| quote: | | Second of all, There are two reasons why I wouldn't post my really wild explorative music online. One would be because every 250 kilobytes theres a guy like you. Second of all, every 350 kilobytes theres a formula humper that's going to create progeny with your (My) intellectual property. |
lol.. someone think's he's high and mighty.. get over yourself d00d or everyone is going to think you're an .. also, I didn't "attack" your music.. I said it was good and that it (mostly) falls into the psy trance genre.. and yes I did listen to some of your other tracks.. most of them with the exception of the last one and a couple others were pretty psy trance to me..
but hey.. I'm "ignorant" so what do i know.. |
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| Pjotr G |
if people write/make music, that gives other people a pleasant hearing experience, it's not redundant at all. Doesn't matter if it's not groundbreaking and is fittable in some existing genre.
Blah being original for the sake of it sucks my ass |
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| alanzo |
| quote: | | Blah being original for the sake of it sucks my ass |
yeh.. just about every track on here that have been classified as "experimental" even ones done by signed producers really sucked and I didn't hold on to.. the reason there are genres is becuase that is what sounds good.. |
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| dj-sean |
| quote: | Originally posted by Seric
Second of all, There are two reasons why I wouldn't post my really wild explorative music online. One would be because every 250 kilobytes theres a guy like you. Second of all, every 350 kilobytes theres a formula humper that's going to create progeny with your (My) intellectual property. |
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| FuzzyGreen |
Ok, here's the thing, we are all artists, and being artists we have egos and walk around with a chip on our shoulder.
So drop the egos. Lets just try to discuss, learn, and have open minds.
Trance is trance, if you are not following the conventions then you aren't creating trance. That is a fact. Fine. Nothing wrong with that. It doesn't mean that you aren't being innovative or groundbreaking. It just means that you are using the basic framework to create art.
Geeze. |
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| Seric |
Being original for the sake of being original is a formula. That was ridiculously stupid. That's precisely what I'm tlaking abotu here.
There are innumerable artists that are famous because of their very originality. In fact, most famous artists are where they are because they dared to do that nowone else would do. Valid example. Sasha. Compeltely unconventional for his genres. Emmensely popular. I'n not sitting here saying that everyone needs to exceed every genres there are, because it's apparent that you can use actual creativity in creating music within a genre! How about that? I don't know why it wasn't clear the first time I said it, but i just think that instead of trying to recreate supersaws and 303 sweeps, it would be nice if people pushed the boundaries in different directions from time to time. The supersaw is the village bicycle and kids on here are still raging about it.
The fact is, this is all opinion, and all we need to really do is state our opinions here. That's all I'm really interested in. Not to mention the term "formula" is the most subjectively affected and stimulative term I could think of. hence why I used it.
..I also don't think I'm being high and mighty, I'm just another guy with another opinion.
-Eric
-Oh.. and being experimental and it not working.. check out Donovan - Atlantis. A trance song, to genre expectations.. from what... 1968? i think? anyway. good stuff |
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