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Terrorist attack in Madrid (pg. 2)
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| YaleTrance |
| quote: | Originally posted by donegalredneck
Aren't some of you kind of jumping on the bandwagon there, automatically blaming ETA? I can't see why that organisation would intentionally target Spanish civilians. It's not like them. There has been speculation that it has been them, of course, but their so-called political wing, Herri Batasuna, say they believe ETA isn't responsible. Another theory at this stage is that it was Islamic extremists, which is possible and due to the nature of the attack it seems quite plausible.
It's my guess that if it was ETA, it was an accident. It would be self defeating for them to target civilians. Also there was no prior warning of bombs having been planted, which is totally uncharacteristic of them also.
What has happened in Ireland in the past is bombings intent on killing civilians have occurred (carried out by British agents and loyalists) and then republicans have been blamed for the atrocities in an attempt to undermine support for militant resistance against the Brits. It's unlikely here, but not impossible. |
You could say we're jumping the bandwagon, but if all the political parties, the national government and the Basque government blamed ETA why would we take Batasuna's lone voice over that? It is true that this is not a characteristic attack, but it's well known that ETA has been planning a MAJOR attack for a long time, and even last week some etarras were arrested and thousands of explosives were confiscated. We'll just have to wait and see if someone will claim responsibility... |
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| TOR |
| whoever is behind it, they cannot be called human |
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| Yoepus |
Although they have linked the explosives to explosives typically used by ETA (omg, ETA uses dynamite too! no!) I don't think it was them. ETA usually calls in a bomb before they blow it up, and they have never carried out an attack this big or ambitious. They usually place one bomb and make a call.
My hunch is an Al Qaeda terrorist network placed the bomb with logistical support form ETA (bought the explosives, or got them provided) through Basque partie.s
Of course this is 100% pure speculation. But I am hoping the train station had some video cameras so invesitagtors can turn up some better clues.
If it is Arabs, what is Spain going to do about it?
And if it is the Basque, what is Spain going to do abotu them? |
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| Ste |
| this is nothing compared to what the authrities stopped a few weeks ago though, a lorry full of explosives on its way down to madrid, with enough explosives with a blastradius of half a kilometer or something rediculous like that. |
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| UnBracKo |
IT WAS ETA!!!!
Come on!!! They have tried 4 times in the last 2 weeks to attempt against a train station in Madrid.
Recently the spanish/french police have captured many members of ETA and ETA was desesperate. They have killed these innocent persons with an easy way cos' now they don't have a good structure. I know it's an ETA inusual attack but they wanted to kill somebody with an easy way for having proagonism, just before the general elections of this next Sunday.
In here all the medias are saying it's ETA and I thought this, since the first time. |
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| Lira |
RIP, this was plain stupid :(
By the way, I'm reading the links Yaletrance posted, but I can't see any "proofs" of it being ETA just yet... weird. I don't believe it was them because it would be a lot more stupid than usual if they did so, there was no apparent reason to trigger this attack. I reserve myself the right to be wrong though.
edit: I don't think doing this during the period of elections would be any profit for them :conf: |
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| UnBracKo |
Man, nobody knows the why of the acts of ETA. They are stupids!
Just a few weeks ago they emited a official statement saying they won't kill more in Catalonia. Is there a reason for don't kill in Catalonia and in the rest of Spain yes?? I don't see any reason cos' they are still killing in the Basque country, in their country.
And isn't the first time they do acts like this, in the 80's in Barcelona they put a bomb in a commercial centre full of people. I think they killed around 40 persons.
They want just protagonism. They are crazy!! that's all |
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| Ian^ |
personally i'm sceptical about it being ETA simply cos of their past actions, like admitting when it was them, and mainly focussing on the catalan region, but who knows. I understand they want the Basque territories to be recognised, but I'm not sure what the whole-hearted feeling is, like do all the people who live there wish to be, or is it just a select few, and if everyone did, since catalan is recognised then the basques would have reason to ask for such.
The means however that they use may make this impossible to happen. I think the main thinking now has to be grief for the families of those involved, and whoever it is hopefully admit it in time. |
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| Ian^ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ste
this is nothing compared to what the authrities stopped a few weeks ago though, a lorry full of explosives on its way down to madrid, with enough explosives with a blastradius of half a kilometer or something rediculous like that. |
there were 3 or 4 more controlled explosions today mate, so it could've been much much worse, maybe double the size |
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| UnBracKo |
13 bags with explosions in total.
And luck cos' the train didn't arrived in the centre of the station. could be too much worse, yes |
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| YaleTrance |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ian^
personally i'm sceptical about it being ETA simply cos of their past actions, like admitting when it was them, and mainly focussing on the catalan region, but who knows. I understand they want the Basque territories to be recognised, but I'm not sure what the whole-hearted feeling is, like do all the people who live there wish to be, or is it just a select few, and if everyone did, since catalan is recognised then the basques would have reason to ask for such.
The means however that they use may make this impossible to happen. I think the main thinking now has to be grief for the families of those involved, and whoever it is hopefully admit it in time. |
The Basque province has as much autonomy as Catalonia or say, Scotland in your country. Also, ETA hates Madrid more than any other place because it's the capital of the "evil empire".
There's no concrete evidence that it was ETA, but there's no evidence pointing to anything else either. The most important evidence is the fact that ETA has been planning something this huge lately. |
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