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| Moti |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moti
The forum's watch DOG is back :whip:
Prabhupada: The dog is barking. He is thinking, "I am dog. I am appointed here as watchman, watchdog, and as soon as somebody is passing, 'Yow! Gow! Gow!' " So, and similarly, if I keep myself in the dog mentality and act like that--"Why you have come to this country [FORUM] ? Why you have come to my jurisdiction?" the same dog mentality.
What cats and dogs will understand about philosophy? If a dog is barking and you speak with him very nicely "my dear dog, please try to control your barking, it is very disturbing" will he be able to understand? therefore we simply throw him a bone, and he is satisfied. |
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| smokeape |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moti
The forum's watch DOG is back :whip: |
Damn right and don't forget it!
Had what? 9 or 10 by now....
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| Moti |
| quote: | Originally posted by smokeape
Damn right and don't forget it!
Had what? 9 or 10 by now....
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The Judas Hari's i hope. :D |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moti
I understand it. IT'S CALLED WORD JUGGLERY. :haha: |
Well yes, you correctly identified what I was doing ... now if only you could understand the motivation and intent *sigh*.
| quote: | Originally posted by Moti
:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: |
Now I know people who laugh at their own jokes in person, but this is taking things to an entirely new level. Do you have conversations with yourself much?
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The Mrs. is at school on Mon. nights. I'm free to roam, bitch, and definitely moan!
Hee hee!!! |
Heehee I KNEW IT! Ok well tread carefully ... weeknight fundy stomping is MY turf! |
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| Moti |
| quote: | Originally posted by smokeape
Damn right and don't forget it!
Had what? 9 or 10 by now....
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Chew on this doggy:
If scientists say that matter is the cause and origin of life, then let us ask them to bring back to life just one dead man, one great man like Professor Einstein. Let them inject some chemicals so that just one dead man may come back to life and work again. But this they cannot do. |
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| Flyboy217 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moti
Hey Mr. Hindu.... for you:
...The religion is translated into Sanskrit as "characteristic." Religion is not a kind of faith. Just like chemical composition. Sugar is sweet--that is religion. Sugar must be sweet. Sugar cannot be pungent. Or chili must be pungent. If chili is sweet, we reject it, and sugar is pungent, you reject it. ...
Is there any difficulty to understand? |
:conf: Uhhh yeah you got me there buddy. Nice one. :rolleyes: :nervous:
Boy I love those smilies. |
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| Moti |
| quote: | Originally posted by Flyboy217
:conf: Uhhh yeah you got me there buddy. Nice one. :rolleyes: :nervous:
Boy I love those smilies. |
I got ya.... Can i get ya again :haha:
Actually there is no such word in the whole Vedic literature, Hindu. It is a name given by the Mohammedans on account of the river Sindu. They pronounced sa as ha. So the Sindu was mispronounced as Hindu and the side, or this side of Indus River, who resided, they are called by the Mohammedans as Hindus. The Hindu name is given by the Mohammedans. Actually, our dharma is varnasrama-dharma, four varnas and four asramas. That is the real name, varnasrama-dharma. The whole Vedic culture is dependent on varnasrama. It is meant for everyone, not that it is meant for Indians only, no. Four varnas and four asramas.
SO KICK OUT THIS HINDU IDEA..... IT'S A SKIN DISEASE.... THE VEDAS BEGIN WITH >>>> WE ARE THE SOUL NOT THE BODY..... is we clear now Mr. Hindu lover :crazy: |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moti
Hey Mr. Hindu.... for you:
Kathy Kerr: Ah. Very well. Okay, I understand that this is an extension of Hindu religion. Is that not correct? No, it's not. Does it have any basic tenets of the Hindu religion?
Prabhupada: There is no such word as Hindu religion. You do not know. There is no such word as Hindu religion, at least in the Vedas. The religion is translated into Sanskrit as "characteristic." Religion is not a kind of faith. Just like chemical composition. Sugar is sweet--that is religion. Sugar must be sweet. Sugar cannot be pungent. Or chili must be pungent. If chili is sweet, we reject it, and sugar is pungent, you reject it. Similarly, our Vedic system is to train the human being to the ultimate goal of his life. That system is called varnasrama-dharma, gradually training the person how to become perfect human being and understand the goal of his life. That is our activity. It is not meant for any particular sect or particular nation. No. It is meant for the whole human society, how to make them perfect in the goal of his life.
Kathy Kerr: Through what means do you train the human being to become, to achieve his ultimate goal in life?
Prabhupada: To understand his spiritual identification. At the present moment, this age, all over the world, things are passing on on the bodily concept of life. But we are not this body. That is the defect of modern civilization, that there are two things--one, the body; and the moving force which is moving the body. So they are taking care of the body, but they have no information what is that moving force. They are presenting some foolish theories that the body is moving by chemical composition, by this, that, but actually they do not know what is there. The chemical composition..., what is that? Frankenstein or something?
Jayadvaita: Frankenstein. (laughter)
Prabhupada: These foolish things are going on. They think the body, by some chemical and physical combination and electric power.... Although they have not been able to do so, but still they'll theorize like that. In this way the whole human society is going on in a deep, ignorant platform. So, that is the defect of the human society at the present moment, and we are trying to mend this defect by this Krsna consciousness movement. People are trying to understand. Our books are being very nicely received by the educated circle. We have got so many books. About, for the time, we have got over fifty-four books like this. This book is selling very nicely, Bhagavad-gita As It Is. We have printed recent edition, 350,000 copies, that is finished. Again we are going to print 500,000 copies. So it is a great science meant for all human beings, not for the Hindus or the Muslim or the Christian. Science, mathematic, is meant for everyone. So it is spiritual science. Everyone should take advantage of it. Otherwise what was the use of my.... I have not come here to preach Hindu religion. Why you should take Hindu religion? You are already Christian. So what is use of replacing Christian religion to Hindu religion? We have no such distinction. We are not after increasing the number of Hindus; we are after making the human being perfect in knowledge. That is our aim.
Kathy Kerr: Do you believe then that there is more than one way?
Prabhupada: There is only one way. Just like the spirit soul is within you and within me. Your skin may be white, my skin may be colored, but within, the spirit soul, what is there in you, that is in me also. There is not change on account of the body. Therefore to understand that spirit soul, there is only one way. There is no second way. Because it is not experimental; it is already there. If it is based on experiment and observation, then my experiment, your experiment may be different. But it is a fact that the soul is there, and as soon as the soul is gone from the body, the body is a dead lump of matter. That you have to understand. And any gentleman, any sensible man can understand it, that soul is there although we are changing body. Just like you were a child. That's a fact. But where is that child's body? Now your body's different. Is it not a fact? What do you think? So where is that body, your child's body?
Kathy Kerr: It's material, I would say.
Prabhupada: Material. When you were on the lap of your mother the body was so small. Now you are a young girl and you are.... So where is that small body? That means you have changed bodies. But your mother knows that you are the same, "My child." Because you have grown up or you have changed your body, your mother will not cry "Where is my child?" She knows that "My child is there, but she has changed body." Why these people do not understand this plain truth? Suppose you have come in this dress; next moment you come in another dress. But if I know you I'll not mistake because you have changed your dress. Similarly, we are changing our dress from baby to child, child to boy, boy to young man, young man to middle-aged man, constantly changing, every moment. Medical science also says. The blood corpuscles are changed every moment. So we are changing our body every moment. But still we cannot understand that on account of change of body, the living force within the body does not change. Is there any difficulty to understand? |
Hi Moti-
Could you please diverge from your ignorance and/or stupidity and please attempt to answer the questions I and others had posted to you previously?
Thanks.
And this rambling here is not unique. There are other religions that claim originality and uniqueness from other religions, though their origins can be easily traced (Christian sects diverging from Catholocism, for example).
And I found this from a simple Google search:
| quote: | ISKCON History:
The International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON) is the religious organization for devotees of Krishna (also spelled Krsna). Their religion is commonly known as Hare Krishna, because of the first two words of their principle mantra:
"Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna, Krishna, Hare, Hare, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama, Rama, Hare, Hare."
Krishna means "The All-Attractive," Hare addresses the energy of God, and Rama means "The Greatest Pleasure." These names of God and the Hare Krishna Mantra are derived from ancient Indian texts of knowledge called Vedas.
The image at the top of this page is of the Tilaka mark; it appears on the foreheads of all followers of Hare Krishna. The two stripes signify the lotus feet of Krishna; the leaf in the center represents holy basil, or Tulasi which traditionally adorns His feet.
ISKCON and Hinduism both trace their beginnings to the Vedas and to the Bhagavad-gita text. Whereas mainstream Hinduism regards Krishna to be the 8th incarnation of Vishnu (the Preserver and one of the Hindu trinity of deities), ISKCON regards Krishna to be the supreme Lord over all deities, including Vishnu. They are therefore a monotheistic faith group, one that stresses bhakti, the way of devotion.
The roots of the faith can be traced back to the advent of Krishna, 5000 years ago in a village in India called Vrindavana. The faith has been revived in recent history by the 16th Century Guru Caitanya Mahaprabu who is regarded by the Hare Krishnas as an incarnation of Krishna in the form of His own devotee. He taught that Lord Krishna was the principle deity, God Himself, and that everyone can regain a personal relationship with Krishna through sankirtana (congregational chanting of God's names, specifically the Hare Krishna Mantra). This tradition was continued by a line of Gurus including (early in this century) Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Gosvami Maharaj.
Abhay Charan De, a disciple of Bhaktisiddhanta, adopted the name Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, left India at the age of 69 and came to the United States to proselytize. Prabhupada (The Master) organized ISKCON in 1965. During its early years, it was largely financed through the sale of incense and Prabhupada's books published by the Bhaktivedanta Book Trust. One of the "Beatles", George Harrison, donated a mansion near London and produced an album featuring the Hare Krishna Mantra. After 12 years of prolific writing and successful promotion of Krishna Consciousness, the Master died in 1977. His main writings were word-for-word translations and commentaries on the Bhagavad-gita ("The Song of God"), the Bhagavata Purana ("The History of God and His Devotees"), and the Caitanya Caritamrita ("The Life and Teachings of Caitanya Mahaprabhu.") Before his death, he appointed eleven commissioners (some sources incorrectly say 20) who were assigned to accept disciples and extend the organization into different countries of the world.
Their head office is in Los Angeles. They currently have a stable membership of over one million members worldwide. Their publish a magazine called Back to Godhead.
ISKCON Beliefs:
Their beliefs share much with conventional Hinduism. Their sacred text is the Hindu poem Bhagavad-Gita which contains conversations between Lord Krishna and a soldier Arjuna. A common ISKCON expression is "We are not this body." That is, we are all spirit souls who are temporarily trapped in a material body and its cares and woes. Their goal is to break away from samsara (endless repetitive reincarnations) and return to the kingdom of God.
Their main differences from mainline Hinduism are:
-Liberation from samsara is attained through sankirtana, which is congregational singing of God's names, which leads to Krishna Consciousness.
-Krishna is worshipped as the Supreme God; they believe that one can attain a personal relationship with Him. Jesus Christ is recognized as a directly empowered representative of Krishna.
-Hell as a temporary destination after death for people who have sinned greatly while on earth.
-Devotees need a spiritual master, who is in a line of succession from the guru Caitanya (or one of three other lines of disciple succession who worship Krishna as the Supreme God.)
-Eating food prepared for and offered to God is an act of communion with Krishna. When such food is eaten, Krishna's energy purifies the body of the devotee.
Their "Nine Processes of Devotional Service" are:
1.Hearing about God .
2.Chanting the names of God .
3.Remembering God by reading, associating with devotees .
4.Serving the Lord Krishna in the temple.
5.Worshiping God by preparation of food, decorating the Lord, bringing others to see Him.
6.Praying to God.
7.Encouraging others to chant the names of God.
8.Develop a close personal and intimate relationship with God.
9.Giving everything we have to God including our bodies.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/hare.htm |
Also,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hare_Krishna
| quote: | The International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON) is the best-known organization of the religious movement popularly known as Hare Krishna. It is a sect of Vaishnava Hinduism which practices bhakti yoga in the worship of Lord Krishna who is popularly known as the eighth avatar of the god Vishnu and, according to ISKCON beliefs, his highest form ("the supreme personality of Godhead").
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Emphasis all mine, so we can see just how "different" these two religions are and their given origins. |
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| Mr. Pink |
Marco V- Godd
"Do you believe in a God that satisfies
Do you believe in a God that tells you lies
or do you believe in me
Do you believe in a God that brings you down
Do you believe in a God that wears a crown
Do you believe in a God that makes you bow
or do you believe in me?!"
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| igottaknow |
A question and an observation:
Q: Why hasn't the Mod moved this thread? It clearly doesn't belong in COR.
O: 90% of mati posts are copy/paste jargon from his religion. He's not here to debate, but rather to spam us with his propaganda. Plz go away I'm not interested in what your selling. *hangs up the phone* |
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| Moti |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Hi Moti-
Could you please diverge from your ignorance and/or stupidity and please attempt to answer the questions I and others had posted to you previously?
Thanks.
And this rambling here is not unique. There are other religions that claim originality and uniqueness from other religions, though their origins can be easily traced (Christian sects diverging from Catholocism, for example).
And I found this from a simple Google search:
Also,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hare_Krishna
Emphasis all mine, so we can see just how "different" these two religions are and their given origins. |
So you accept them... good luck to you... You where more elevated when you were quoting the frog scientists.... now you are quoting the Guru killing child molester cult.... HOW THE MIGHTY HAVE FALLEN.:disbelief |
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| Moti |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Hi Moti-
Could you please diverge from your ignorance and/or stupidity and please attempt to answer the questions I and others had posted to you previously?
Thanks.
And this rambling here is not unique. There are other religions that claim originality and uniqueness from other religions, though their origins can be easily traced (Christian sects diverging from Catholocism, for example).
And I found this from a simple Google search:
Also,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hare_Krishna
Emphasis all mine, so we can see just how "different" these two religions are and their given origins. |
So you accept them... good luck to you... You were more elevated when you were quoting the frog scientists.... now you are quoting the Guru killing child molester cult.... HOW THE MIGHTY HAVE FALLEN.:disbelief |
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