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No Smoking in bars, lounges, nighclubs, casinos/racetracks June 1st 2004!!!!! (pg. 6)
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
you will never see superclubs allowing in and outs for smoking. My prediction is that this new law will hurt superclubs the most. |
And what exactly is this "prediction" based on? The PUBCO study that I thoroughly debunked earlier, or just your own unsubstantiated personal opinion? |
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| dEsidEL |
| quote: | Originally posted by The Highroller
i like how non-smokers always pass judgement on smokers. alot of anti-smokers seem to like to think they're better than smokers, and it's really disgusting. |
hey i smoked because of the social environment.. why else would u do it! 
only after i started to feel the effects of a nicotine element did i actually look to smoke it at bars/parties with no social benefit.. but since then i've personally controlled choosing not to smoke because of heriditary health ailments..
btw. i never said i was an (anti-smoker)
are u a chain smoker or a casual one .. ?? i always thought u just smoked casually.. if not, i want the old Graham back!!
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| all for it! |
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| SkyHigh |
Im so sick of this no smoking compaign..
Smokers have righs too...
Next thing you know we wont be allowed to smoke on the street...
the next person tha tells me that i cant smoke beside them on the street ..is getting their stupid ass punched in tha face..
Freking idiotic..:whip: |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by SkyHigh
Im so sick of this no smoking compaign..
Smokers have righs too...
Next thing you know we wont be allowed to smoke on the street...
the next person tha tells me that i cant smoke beside them on the street ..is getting their stupid ass punched in tha face..
Freking idiotic..:whip: |
Please point us to the particular clause in the charter of rights which guarantees your right to smoke anywhere, anytime.
Over seven lawsuits by the tobacco and hospitality industries regarding constitutional issues have been dismissed. The courts seem to disagree with your sentiment. |
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| SkyHigh |
| Ok point me to the one that states u cant smoke on the street!!!! |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by SkyHigh
Ok point me to the one that states u cant smoke on the street!!!! |
There isn't one, which is why you -can- smoke on the street. I don't believe that any city in our hemisphere has tried to enact a bylaw preventing people from smoking outdoors, it is specifically for enclosed public spaces. |
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| chanoa |
the can. charter does not tell u what u can't do. it only goes over the rights and freedoms and the procedures our laws must abide by.
as for the non-smoking arguement. sec. 7 - life liberty and security of person. anything that can be done that is known to improve the quality of life for society must be done |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by chanoa
as for the non-smoking arguement. sec. 7 - life liberty and security of person. anything that can be done that is known to improve the quality of life for society must be done |
I'm confused, are you saying that section 7 is a good argument against smoke-free bylaws, or are you saying why it's -not- a valid argument? Because of it's the former, then I'll again say that several court trials have shown that argument to be a blatant misinterpretation of the charter, and I'd be happy to list the specific cases in question. |
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| chanoa |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
I'm confused, are you saying that section 7 is a good argument against smoke-free bylaws, or are you saying why it's -not- a valid argument? Because of it's the former, then I'll again say that several court trials have shown that argument to be a blatant misinterpretation of the charter, and I'd be happy to list the specific cases in question. |
it is an argument as to why smoking should not be allowed inside bars/restaurants etc. sec. 7 is a tricky one, as it can be interpreted in different ways (in the abortion debate, both sides used it to argue their point – right to life vs. the right to choose how you live your life. Also again in the Rodriguez case – the right to life or the right to choose ones death)
So depending on your view on smoking, you technically could look at it both ways. For the non-smoker side, sec. 7 was used to argue that the general health of society, and their right to live life, was more important then the smokers right to smoke where ever they pleased. And as for those sitting on the fence; I’d be hard-pressed to find many who didn’t agree with that. |
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| SgtFoo |
I'm sad.
I originally created this thread to be an informal thread about how we'll have smoke-free environments to enjoy trance music. It's a great thing as for hygene and health... but I understand the smokers' point of view as well, even though I don't smoke cigarettes.
Don't get me wrong, some "herb" with trance goes well together.
What i mean to say is...lets stop arguing over "unsubstantiated" OR "substantiated" opinions, and just accept this new law.... it isn't going anywhere.... as yet.
More of us all may benefit from this than you think (including you smokers out there)
PLUR ppl!!!! :( :rolleyes: :tongue2 :tongue2 :D :D |
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| dj_moonshine |
there should be a seperate smoking section inside the club, and they should put a couple of speakers in their tooo. so the ones who wish rto smoke can use that special room, and the ones who dont smoke (me), can stay outside of the room.. wats the argument about?
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