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| Waxen |
Who here thinks that Canada should bring back the death penalty?
Often I think they should, because lately 1/2 the crimes I'm seeing make me sick to my stomach. |
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| dEsidEL |
| just force them to listen to some trance or something |
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| starsearcher |
| It's a very controvercial issue...however I can definitely think of a few crimes in my lifetime where I would have liked to see the death penalty applied - specifically one that did not happen in Canada. But are we really punishing the person by taking his life? Or is better to lock him up in a sick place for eternity...but if we lock him up in a sick place we get all those ed up groups who would say we can't treat people like that...so what do we get...prisoners that live lives better than some of us who are so called "free" in the world. It's a never-ending cycle - but like I said I could vote for the death penalty in a few cases. |
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| Callie5 |
| quote: | Originally posted by dEsidEL
just force them to listen to some trance or something |
Ya that'll fix em....
I'm all for the death penalty... Especially when you hear like the ceclia case.. now that makes me ill |
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| Waxen |
Yeah.. but if you just lock them up they have chance of parole eventually when they will get released and just do it again. We have all these people that think they can "save" them and "treat" them. YOU AREN'T INSIDE THEIR HEAD! You can't fix a person who does such sick things. And why take the chance of it happenning again?
Meanwhile.. lets stick them in jail for a few years where they can sit and plot up a master plan for when they get out, and become more psychotic because of the atmosphere they are in. They are in there all day doing what? Thinking about how they will do it again when they get out one day..and when they do get out, that's what scares me. |
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| St_Andrew |
i can agree that death penelty would feel good in some cases, but i'm strongly against it.
1. You can never be 100% sure that the person is quily, there has been several cases where they have executed an inocent person.
2. It is just wrong. No one should kill, so why should the state?
3. It seems like it don't have the detterent effect that many people think. Countries without death penelty often have less bad crime than countries with death penelty.
4. This people are sick, there is nothing they can do about their situation, they are more or less born into this. They still should have right to live, as much as a disabled person or so. |
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| starsearcher |
| quote: | Originally posted by Waxen
Yeah.. but if you just lock them up they have chance of parole eventually when they will get released and just do it again. We have all these people that think they can "save" them and "treat" them. YOU AREN'T INSIDE THEIR HEAD! You can't fix a person who does such sick things. And why take the chance of it happenning again?
Meanwhile.. lets stick them in jail for a few years where they can sit and plot up a master plan for when they get out, and become more psychotic because of the atmosphere they are in. They are in there all day doing what? Thinking about how they will do it again when they get out one day..and when they do get out, that's what scares me. |
I don't really think that your view of once a killer - always a killer is correct...if someone slaughtered my relatives and I killed them out of revenge then it doesn't mean i'm a sicko and need to be killed because if I'll be released I'll kill again...there are too many examples that can be made against that argument...BUT...what I was referring to is life in prison without parole...I guess I should have made that clear...regardless - life in prison is not all that bad thanks to those wonderful "groups" that are so worried about the conditions of the poor prisoners that often like i said live better than some of us who are not locked up. ;) - And we are the ones paying taxes for all that too... |
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| xls |
| The state has no business taking the lives of its subjects, no matter what they've done. It goes against basic principles of freedom and liberty. Our penal system in North America is flawed because it aims to punish rather than reform. Punishment has never been a deterrent for violent crimes... |
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| starsearcher |
| quote: | Originally posted by xls
The state has no business taking the lives of its subjects, no matter what they've done. It goes against basic principles of freedom and liberty. Our penal system in North America is flawed because it aims to punish rather than reform. Punishment has never been a deterrent for violent crimes... |
True...but there is no proof that reform works either, and that's not a good solution cause then every criminal will get away with anything...:rolleyes: |
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| drgoodvibe |
| quote: | Originally posted by xls
The state has no business taking the lives of its subjects, no matter what they've done. It goes against basic principles of freedom and liberty. Our penal system in North America is flawed because it aims to punish rather than reform. Punishment has never been a deterrent for violent crimes... |
agreed, with more emphasis on prevention, instead of reform. |
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| Kytracid |
There are some wild animals loose on the streets, animals that kill, torture, mutilate all to satisfy some sick craving that burns within them. At some point, i think what we can call humanity is lost in these vile creatures. If a fair judicial system can proove that a criminal has commited horrible atrocities against his fellow man, and they are unremorseful, and will probably commit them again if allowed to go free. Then I find no problem in sentencing them to death. Not sure about those who find the death penalty barbaric, but i know i can go to sleep peacefully knowing that a serial killer / child rapist will be going stright to hell, after they're done frying his ass.
In a progressive society, everyone should be held accountable for their actions. As hard as it is to stomach, i do believe that some actions carry with them, the ultimate consequence. |
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| xls |
| quote: | Originally posted by starsearcher
True...but there is no proof that reform works either, and that's not a good solution cause then every criminal will get away with anything...:rolleyes: |
look into some of the Scandinavian penal systems. they often don't have revolving door prisons like we do here because they put the emphasis on reform rather than punishment. repeat offenders are practically non-existant in many communities because they are integrated back into the community instead of shunned as criminals when they get out. there was an interesting special on CBC about this a couple of months ago. |
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