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what is a popular trend these days (pg. 11)
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Seventil
What's wrong with having a moral compass and ways to live by, especially ones that were embraced by the people that founded this country?
Saying we should "work" toward acheiving a society that accepts homosexuality and gay adoption is ... disturbing. What's next, legalized beastiality and kiddie porn?
The line needs to be drawn here. It should have been many years ago. |
change is inevitable. i'm not saying lets destroy the united states and the principles that it was founded on, in actuality i'm saying lets embrace those principles by expanding their reach into subjects that were incomprehensible 200 years ago. there is nothing wrong with having a moral compass, but your moral foundation is different then my moral foundation so we must find common ground. morality is such a relative word to begin with.
you're examples of kiddie porn and beastiality are ridiculous. don't try and disprove what i'm saying by using extremes. a society shall decide whether or not something should be accepted and how it should be governed. |
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| Orbax |
Im a dying breed :( my line will end with me, sigh. I better beat some people up or something before im out :p
Apparently im a block of stone with the words "fossil" engraved into it hehe.
Ite, im going to go lumberjack . with an AXE! thats how old school I am. Nothing feels better than swinging an axe. So ill be doing that for a while. Then at noonish I think im going to start getting drunk with my friend who got back at 1am last night :D muahahhahahaaha!
Dont talk too much crap while im gone. |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Seventil
Curious - do you think this is a good thing? ;) |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orbax
Noooooooo :) |
hehehe i don't have anything against conservatives at all. i'm actually registered as a republican, but i don't really associated with one party over another. my stance differs on the issue.
if you've ever taken one of those online political spetrum tests, i'm literall in the dead center hehehe...i'd be the perfect politician :gsmile: |
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| tranceaholic |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ang ' ela_ie
Its not hard to live with. I know because I live it every day. People dont understand adoption until they experience it. "Real" parents? Real parents are the two people that raise and nurture the child and help him/her learn and grow. |
i agree with ur idea of real parents..nut u must admit its not easy and add to that being GAY parents..i mean lets say a kid is 4 and asks how come i dont have a mom and i have 2 dads? how the hell do u answer a 4 yr old.. |
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| Seventil |
| quote: | Originally posted by Floorfiller
change is inevitable. i'm not saying lets destroy the united states and the principles that it was founded on, in actuality i'm saying lets embrace those principles by expanding their reach into subjects that were incomprehensible 200 years ago. there is nothing wrong with having a moral compass, but your moral foundation is different then my moral foundation so we must find common ground. morality is such a relative word to begin with.
you're examples of kiddie porn and beastiality are ridiculous. don't try and disprove what i'm saying by using extremes. a society shall decide whether or not something should be accepted and how it should be governed. |
I think my examples work perfectly. If our society let's this go, where do you draw the line? Sure, it's not socially acceptable right now for me (being 25) to sleep with a 12 year old girl, the same way 50 years ago it wasn't socially acceptable for 2 guys to walk around holding hands and kissing in public. It's slowly becoming "acceptable" because we need to be "sensitive to different people".
I may sound way right sided here, but all that. I know your morals are different than the founding fathers, but I say we owe them that much respect to them to embrace the principles the country was found on.
Just my opinion... ;) |
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| ShadoWolf |
Why can't a man marry his sister? Maybe it could be wonderful!
I have that right and you can't tell me I don't.
...if I wanted to marry a goat, you can't stop me!
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
society is going down the drain IMO |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Seventil
I think my examples work perfectly. If our society let's this go, where do you draw the line? Sure, it's not socially acceptable right now for me (being 25) to sleep with a 12 year old girl, the same way 50 years ago it wasn't socially acceptable for 2 guys to walk around holding hands and kissing in public. It's slowly becoming "acceptable" because we need to be "sensitive to different people".
I may sound way right sided here, but all that. I know your morals are different than the founding fathers, but I say we owe them that much respect to them to embrace the principles the country was found on.
Just my opinion... ;) |
but aren't our principles based on freedoms? should we reinstitute slavery too?
you sleeping with 12 yr olds may not be acceptable in the united states, but i assure you that there are societies that are accepting and marry off girls that young. do we find it acceptable...well no. its not for america, but that doesn't make it anymore wrong because we have a different as you put it "moral compass". there was also a time in our own history when women got married at 15, 16 years of age and in some parts of the united states still do. is that morally wrong? should we bang such practices? telling someone that is like telling you that you aren't allowed to practice your own beliefs. just because your morality seems to align closely to traditional viewpoints doesn't mean that it is the only acceptable form or viewpoint. |
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| Slylee |
yea but if we keep making homosexuality taboo, it will just get worse and worse....and i'm scared of what will become of those who are constantly told they can't do it and that it's wrong. they might go crazy.
there's too much gray area involved. i don't mind gay couples, although i get really grossed out if i see 2 guys kissing or holding hands...weirds me out...and i'm a girl. but i just deal with it and turn my head. i think we can "accept" it and turn our heads if it bothers us, but raising kids in a gay marriage is taking it too far. like i said, i've seen first hand what that can do to a kid (my friend i referred to before). it's just not right. |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
Why can't a man marry his sister? Maybe it could be wonderful!
I have that right and you can't tell me I don't.
...if I wanted to marry a goat, you can't stop me!
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
society is going down the drain IMO |
who says that their aren't people that are married to their sisters or goats? i'm not saying i've seen a man and goat announcement in the paper recently, but i assure you that there are people married to their sisters out there ;) |
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| Slylee |
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
Why can't a man marry his sister? Maybe it could be wonderful!
I have that right and you can't tell me I don't.
...if I wanted to marry a goat, you can't stop me!
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
society is going down the drain IMO |
i agree 100%. i don't think this is what our forefathers had in mind.
some of it can be stretched or accepted, but someone has to draw the line. |
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| Floorfiller |
| but lemme guess...our forefathers really did want us to legalize marijuana right? its so funny how we all pick and choose what was intended and what was not... |
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| Seventil |
| quote: | Originally posted by Floorfiller
but aren't our principles based on freedoms? should we reinstitute slavery too?
you sleeping with 12 yr olds may not be acceptable in the united states, but i assure you that there are societies that are accepting and marry off girls that young. do we find it acceptable...well no. its not for america, but that doesn't make it anymore wrong because we have a different as you put it "moral compass". there was also a time in our own history when women got married at 15, 16 years of age and in some parts of the united states still do. is that morally wrong? should we bang such practices? telling someone that is like telling you that you aren't allowed to practice your own beliefs. just because your morality seems to align closely to traditional viewpoints doesn't mean that it is the only acceptable form or viewpoint. |
While I do understand your point, and I do believe America was based off of "Freedom" - we have to draw the line somewhere.
Homosexuality feels morally wrong to me (and a lot of people). It also did to our founding ancestors. While I see your point on slavery (being accepted back then) - it's not a fair argument to say that because they believed in slavery and not homosexuality, it should be ok.
The line must be drawn!
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Say no to the cock.
Unless you're a girl. |
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