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Can someone please answer these NOOB questions?
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| NooBey |
I have a few questions and I would be very happy if someone could give me the answers.
1. What does "Mainstream" means?
2. What does "Commercial" means? (Commercial tracks that is)
3. What does "Uplifting" means? (Uplifting tracks that is)
4. What's the difference between Psy-Trance and Psychedelic?
5. How can I tell if the genre of a perticular track is Club? I know how to distinguish between Trance, Dance, House and Psychedelic but I still can't tell if a track is Club.
Thanks for the help! |
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| Ory |
1. Mainstream is basically the music you hear on radio and on MTV, the music that sells the most. Y'know, Britney Spears etc.
2. Same as above.
3. Uplifting trance? Trance that has very high notes in the melody and give you sort of an "uplifting" feeling. Progressive trance usually does NOT have this element. It is, well, deeper. But there are exceptions.
4. Psy-trance = psychedelic trance.
5. There is no "club" genre. :S But I guess there's music you dance to and music you just listen to and relax, like Sasha's "Airdrawndagger" album. |
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| Subtle |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ory
3. Uplifting trance? Trance that has very high notes in the melody and give you sort of an "uplifting" feeling. Progressive trance usually does NOT have this element. It is, well, deeper. But there are exceptions. |
ehm.. I totally disagree with that... I mean "trance" is uplifting.. there are no such thing as uplifting trance.. if trance werent uplifting.. it isnt trance... progressive is just as uplifting as trance.. if not even more uplifing.. it got nothing to do with notes or anything.. In many ways I think that progressive actually is trance.. just hadd to get it of my chest.. |
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| th0m |
| Uplifting trance has more buildups than progressive trance. |
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| NooBey |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ory
5. There is no "club" genre. :S But I guess there's music you dance to and music you just listen to and relax, like Sasha's "Airdrawndagger" album. |
There is a genre called Club. Even in Winamp you can make a track have a Club genre.
Club is basically the version of a track that is used in clubs and parties. When you hear the "Club Mix" version of a Trance, it means that this version of the track is played most of the time in clubs and parties.
But what annoys me the most is that Club can be a genre by it self.
I sometimes tell if a track is Club but it's hard to distinguish since I don't know which notes and basslines are used in that genre.
And btw, what's the opposite word of "Mainstream"? |
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| th0m |
| quote: | Originally posted by NooBey
And btw, what's the opposite word of "Mainstream"? |
I'd say underground. |
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| bruddahmanmatt |
You could have a club mix of an R&B or Hip-Hop track as well. As you said yourself, "Club Mix" simply denotes the version that you'd listen to at a club, it does not define the parameters of a track (bassline, melody, etc...).
As for the opposite of mainstream, that's easy... Underground. |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | | I mean "trance" is uplifting.. |
i wouldnt call a lot of hard/acid/psy trance, uplifting...
I would say uplifting is more "melodic" trance that is verry "synthy"(lack of better word). |
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| starglider |
| quote: | Originally posted by NooBey
There is a genre called Club. Even in Winamp you can make a track have a Club genre.
Club is basically the version of a track that is used in clubs and parties. When you hear the "Club Mix" version of a Trance, it means that this version of the track is played most of the time in clubs and parties.
But what annoys me the most is that Club can be a genre by it self.
I sometimes tell if a track is Club but it's hard to distinguish since I don't know which notes and basslines are used in that genre.
And btw, what's the opposite word of "Mainstream"? |
Club is not really a genre. Just because Winamp says it is doesn't mean it is. Winamp also has Porn Groove as a listed genre... :stongue:
Now anyway. People often use the term "club trance" to mean fairly commercial, simple tunes that would go down well in a club but might not be appreciated otherwise. It carries a rather negative connotation. This is really the only applicable definition, apart from in the psytrance world where "club trance" means any kind of trance that isn't psy... but that's another story. |
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| NooBey |
| quote: | Originally posted by bruddahmanmatt
Yah but there is no actual Club genre. I mean you could have a club mix of an R&B or Hip-Hop track as well. As you said yourself, "Club Mix" simply denotes the version that you'd listen to at a club, it does not define the parameters of a track (bassline, melody, etc...). |
But there is a difference in the style of the Club Mix and the Original Mix (and other mixes as well). |
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| paranoik0 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Subtle
ehm.. I totally disagree with that... I mean "trance" is uplifting.. there are no such thing as uplifting trance.. if trance werent uplifting.. it isnt trance... progressive is just as uplifting as trance.. if not even more uplifing.. it got nothing to do with notes or anything.. In many ways I think that progressive actually is trance.. just hadd to get it of my chest.. |
dear god i have so many things against what you've wrote there but i don't want to write another 10 lines about my pickyness about progressive, trance and uplifting |
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| bruddahmanmatt |
| quote: | Originally posted by NooBey
But there is a difference in the style of the Club Mix and the Original Mix (and other mixes as well). |
Well of course there is, by altering several elements of a track, one can make it easier to dance/club to. While "Club" does not denote the parameters of a track itself, it does kind of imply that it is easier to drop in a club or dance to. I guess you could say that's what club means. That the club version of a track is danceable to and works very well in a clubbing environment. But by saying that a track is easy for a DJ to spin in a club doesn't say anything particular and specific about the way it is structured since as I said, you could have a club mix of tracks from many different genres. |
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