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Ontario finally bans pop and chips from school vending machines (pg. 6)
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| Jayx1 |
Not to mention how many parents drive their kids to school every day now. When i was 5 i used to walk to school by myself.
Let them walk! |
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| amb_ |
A great point.
"Forcing" kids to do anything, whether by removing soft drinks and potato chips from vending machines in school, or putting then through countless hours of phys. ed. per week, isn't exactly a productive choice. Many people have used such language in this thread and I don't agree with it.
Children are in school to learn. Whether academics, health, or life skills, a child of any age can be taught to appreciate the things that affect them and be given the foundation for making wise decisions later in life.
Make it "fun". Put it at a level that they can understand. Develop curriculum that makes the reasons why they might want to make the right choice accessible to their age group. Only then will you have succeeded in truly educating a child. Removing a symptom of the problem, such as snack vending machines, only serves to wash the hands of those who have been entrusted with the stewardship of our children.
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
You can educate, but mandating lifestyle choices is not effective and by making these foods taboo, kids will want them even more. |
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| Jayx1 |
| phys ed isnt forcing kids to do anything more than forcing them to do math and science. |
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| amb_ |
I was referring to the fact that increased physical education on its own, without giving kids the necessary tools to understand why physical activity is a good choice, is just as short-sighted as eliminating the sale of unhealthy snack foods in school.
Like it was said by Rodrico, kids have a lot of spare time outside of school. If they've had classes where they've learnt that it's a good idea to find some sort of physical activity they enjoy and excel in it, instead of coming home and playing XBox or Counterstrike until bedtime, they're going to carry this around with them for the rest of their lives.
Anything less is counter-productive.
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
phys ed isnt forcing kids to do anything more than forcing them to do math and science. |
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| Jayx1 |
| Yes but now we get into the realm of parental responsibilty. We are talking about what takes place at the school primarily. |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
It's no solution at all. It won't help either. All it is is a symbolic scheme to make it look like they are doing something about it.
Its nothing but a political ploy and you are all falling right into it. |
Don't insult me, Jay. It adds nothing to this discussion. |
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| Jayx1 |
insult? How did I insult?
If you call that an insult then you need to stop being over senstive. |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Id rather give people the choice. Condom machines are giving kids a choice. Banning junk food isnt. By doing both it sends kids mixed messages.
"It's ok to decide if you want to have sex but we don't think you are old enough to choose a coke over fruit juice."
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We're talking about elementary schools, not high schools. There isn't a sex positive message in schools for children at the elementary level.
elementary kids should not have a choice for EVERYTHING. |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
insult? How did I insult?
If you call that an insult then you need to stop being over senstive. |
You're insulting everyone's intelligence by suggesting that we can't see through such an obvious "political ploy."
If you stopped being so confrontational about every.single.political.issue.in.existence. then perhaps more people would be encouraged to participate in discussions like these. |
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| amb_ |
How so?
How does teaching children (of any age) *in school* how to make responsible decisions as it relates to their health and well-being fall into the realm of parental responsibility? Sure, in an ideal world, this is something the parents should be teaching their children, but in reality, our education system should also be making a serious effort to ensure that our children know very early on how to take care of themselves.
The whole point I'm making is that if this is done in school, a child will carry this away with them and apply it to their lives outside of school.
Please Jay, do a better job of reading responses. I've been quite clear.
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Yes but now we get into the realm of parental responsibilty. We are talking about what takes place at the school primarily. |
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| Jayx1 |
You are right they shouldnt. But unless you tell these kids that they cant bring junk food from home and that they cant leave school grounds then you wont solve the "problem" with junk food bans.
Im against those other 2 measures as well and something tells me that these "activists" will push for that next. There is one thing for sure, an activist never settles after they win a goal because they always want more. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by amb_
How so?
How does teaching children (of any age) *in school* how to make responsible decisions as it relates to their health and well-being fall into the realm of parental responsibility? Sure, in an ideal world, this is something the parents should be teaching their children, but in reality, our education system should also be making a serious effort to ensure that our children know very early on how to take care of themselves.
The whole point I'm making is that if this is done in school, a child will carry this away with them and apply it to their lives outside of school.
Please Jay, do a better job of reading responses. I've been quite clear. |
I agree with you whole heartedly. Education as well as physical activity is what is needed in schools. I grew up with phys Ed three times a week. Sometimes we did boring things like gymnastics and other times we played ball hockey. Either way we were doing excersize. |
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