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CDJ User, downloading music legally ? (pg. 3)
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| djlithium |
You are obviously in a dark hole somewhere.
I am not some "random" DJ. |
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| jdat |
| quote: | Originally posted by djlithium
You are obviously in a dark hole somewhere.
I am not some "random" DJ. |
:rolleyes:
I never claimed you were a random dj so stop reading in between the lines.
Btw I'll ask the question again:
And in what record labels name do you speak for? |
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| djlithium |
| Read the signature tag and I will "stop reading between the lines". |
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| jdat |
| quote: | Originally posted by djlithium
Read the signature tag and I will "stop reading between the lines". |
ah ok you arsehole let me enable sigs.
As a friendly reminder you're not going to get a lot peoples positive attention if you come in here all judgemental claiming to be exclusive bearer of all knowledge.
SO STFU. :rolleyes: |
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| Elujin |
www.mp3search.ru russian & american site
has a lot of Mp3's - 10 cents a song. I;ve downloaded a good amount from that site cause I couldnt find alot of it on KaZaa, Limewire, DC++ |
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| Inertia |
| quote: | Originally posted by Elujin
www.mp3search.ru russian & american site
has a lot of Mp3's - 10 cents a song. I;ve downloaded a good amount from that site cause I couldnt find alot of it on KaZaa, Limewire, DC++ |
is that a legal download site? i mean, do those 10 cents in any way support the artists? |
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| Dj Spiel |
I never thought of that. Ok, so instead of the *usally* buying Vinyl from a Website you can buy Digitally High MP3's from websites pay for it then download it.
Can we get someone nice to compile a list in one post. I think I am going to check that out seeing as How I buying final scratch. |
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| mr. sound |
| quote: | Originally posted by Inertia
is that a legal download site? i mean, do those 10 cents in any way support the artists? |
illegal. |
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| djlithium |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Spiel
I never thought of that. Ok, so instead of the *usally* buying Vinyl from a Website you can buy Digitally High MP3's from websites pay for it then download it.
Can we get someone nice to compile a list in one post. I think I am going to check that out seeing as How I buying final scratch. |
Blah, final hack.
Ask yourself this... In what situation have you ever seen anyone except for one of the guys sponsored by FS/Stanton actually walk into a party and plug in?? It's never happened at any of the events we have played at or seen anywhere else, so do you think you are going to be able to go out and play at these places hauling your laptop and scratch box with you unless you put it in place before hand??
Just play records. If you don't like paying those prices? discourage people from buying digital and mixing that way as it kills things. The more records out there that are good that you by, the more stable the price will be and even go down.
Hell we probably have some of the highest costs on our manufacturing and they are still 11 bucks canadian at djmr.com.
Also when shopping look for tracks not from these "major big name people". I have found that some of the best stuff that is going to be more exclusive because of limited runs and no digital or cd singles available can be priced as low as 9.00 CND here at the main shops.
It just takes some patience and some originality. You don't want to be playing the same stuff the guy before you did do you? |
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| Steven Hays |
OMG, Lithium, you are a jackass.
First off, many digital download sites have songs that aren't even signed yet, and if they are for the most case they are through the record label that releases them on vinyl.
Secondly, if you haven't realised it yet, CD's are the future. They're smaller, hold more, and very much cheaper. Wait a couple of years before vinyl is a thing of the past. You can be a vinyl advocate for the rest of your life, but that's your bank account, and your ignorance that's paying for it.
Third and lastly, if digital downloading is going to put record labels out of business there wouldn't be labels producing MP3's for download in the first place. Hell, I-Tunes wouldn't even exist. For what I see, they're probably making a load more money through digital sites. You don't have to be a DJ to buy an MP3 to play on your computer, but for the most part you must be a DJ or some kind of vinyl junkie to buy a record; ie: not everyone owns a turntable, but its a great chance a lot more people own a computer capable of playing MP3's(therefore a broader consumer base). There is also no production cost for downloads, except for minimal website costs.
So with all that said, you are being blind to the situation. Quit living in the past and join many in this forum as we look ahead to the future.
Out,
-Steve |
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| Steven Hays |
| quote: | iTunes Music Store selling 5.5 million songs per week
December 17, 2004 - 13:08 EST Piper Jaffray senior research analyst Gene Munster said Friday that based on Apple's announcement of 200 millions songs being downloaded from the iTunes Music Store so far, the company is selling approximately 5.5 millions songs per week, up from 3.5 to 4 million songs last quarter. Based on this run rate, Munster said in a research note to clients, he is expecting iTunes downloads in the December quarter to reach 68.5 million, up from his previous estimate of 52.1 million. He said that assuming 68.5 million iTunes downloads in the December quarter and 4 million iPod shipments, Apple would be averaging 7 iTunes song purchases per iPod. "If we apply this 7x ratio to our cumulative iPod installed base estimates through calendar year 2005, iTunes downloads for 2005 would be at 474 million vs. our current estimate of 256 million," Munster said. The analyst is also looking for iTunes revenue to account for 3 percent of Apple's total revenue in 2005. |
http://www.macminute.com/2004/12/17/piper-jaffray/
I think after reading these stat's just for the iTunes section, you'll realise it's helping the industry. |
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| djlithium |
| quote: | Originally posted by Steven Hays
OMG, Lithium, you are a jackass.
First off, many digital download sites have songs that aren't even signed yet, and if they are for the most case they are through the record label that releases them on vinyl.
Secondly, if you haven't realised it yet, CD's are the future. They're smaller, hold more, and very much cheaper. Wait a couple of years before vinyl is a thing of the past. You can be a vinyl advocate for the rest of your life, but that's your bank account, and your ignorance that's paying for it.
Third and lastly, if digital downloading is going to put record labels out of business there wouldn't be labels producing MP3's for download in the first place. Hell, I-Tunes wouldn't even exist. For what I see, they're probably making a load more money through digital sites. You don't have to be a DJ to buy an MP3 to play on your computer, but for the most part you must be a DJ or some kind of vinyl junkie to buy a record; ie: not everyone owns a turntable, but its a great chance a lot more people own a computer capable of playing MP3's(therefore a broader consumer base). There is also no production cost for downloads, except for minimal website costs.
So with all that said, you are being blind to the situation. Quit living in the past and join many in this forum as we look ahead to the future.
Out,
-Steve |
The future of what exactly Steven?? No one is looking past their noses with the exeption of vinyl DJs as to where digital mixing will lead for the future of dance music. I didn't say "don't provide digital downloads to non-djs".
When vinyl "dies" as you insist it will, you will find a repeat of what happened with disco in late 1979 and early 1980 and in then again with techno/acid house etc. in early to mid 90's when everyone and their dog/record label put out a mass amount of trash from anyone and everyone who could manage to throw something together in a studio - to try and cash in on the wave. That wave CRASHED.
Vinyl pressings are the ULTIMATE ACID TEST for a track. Yes it costs more per copy but it will certainly cost us all a lot less in the long term because the vinyl DJ and vinyl records provide a barrier to the flood gate of e that comes from every 12-18 year old who "has been in the scene for almost 2 years and is now considered a verteran" with a copy of reason and abletonlive and expects to be worshipped like a god because someone downloaded their track - more often than not for free or illegally. I also have news for you.
Vinyl DJs like myself and internet radio station operators who put together the first trance and collectively underground dance music radio stations (myself included there as my station has been listed in the electronica genre section of iTunes since day one - how that happened I will explain later in my proposal to the underground dance music industry) exclusively online kicked started things all over again in late 1998. Now with the recent crash (again the result of people driven buy "cashing in") in mid-2002 has us scratching our heads going "what's next and will it survive or will dance music be killed for another 20 years at this level we had just experienced? and what will be the cause for it?"
YOUR IGNORANCE OF HISTORY AND INSTISTANCE OF VINYL DJs TO GET WITH THE TIMES will result in just that.
The people who continuously argue about price, convienience and 'weight of the records to carry to a gig' are completely inept and inexperienced in the business and or are essentially cheap s.
You don't value the culture obviously so then how do you value the music and the artists with attitudes like this?
Would it also shock you to find out that many so called "pro djs" who play on cds or mix digitally won't really consider anything unless its a promo from a label??THAT PRESSES VINYL!
Yup it would. Because you still have your heads in mp3.com land. I have MORE news for you. Many of the top mp3.com trance and house artists go NOWHERE through those systems and have now turned around and found it is better for their careers and the music as a whole to seek out vinyl record pressing deals and even if that only amounts to 1000 copies, the big ticket is compilation mixed disc releases from djs who will play those records and license them. But there is a barrier to that of course left over from old world music business practices. I will put foward a complete system to change this situation for the better and you will find that not only are you incredibly misinformed but also among a list of very shortsighted people who have contributed more in the form of damage to the dance culture as a whole while filling the pockets of technology companies that will cash in and cash out when the bottom falls out if you get your way. |
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