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ASOT vs The Elites - Round II (pg. 9)
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| Ory |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Wow. So music with catchy melodies can't be underground, right? Like hard trance, and not that ty Euro-trash stuff, I mean the UK material. Pop as , huh?
It's a ridiculous attitude. So music gets better the less accessible it is? Riiiight. A lot of the time music that is unknown is unknown for a good reason. McProg isn't pop music. There hasn't been a single McProg record in the Top 40 of any country to my knowledge. The emphasis of it is not to make money, it's to make music people will dance to. And it obviously works. |
It's not underground (not that Digweed is either). People worship this stuff, it's pathetic. Markus Schulz Alliance? Helloooo?
Anyway, you can't really compare McProg/dutch crap to other music. Music is never 100% original, far from, but like I said, McProg is an extreme case. |
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| Ory |
| quote: | Originally posted by RickyM
Ory, its pretty clear that you are one boring mother fúcker. |
What does that have to do with anything? Why am I not allowed to analyze music? |
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| Zombie0915 |
This reminds me of the star trek episode where the vulcans challenged the crew of deep space nine to a baseball game.
The captain of the vulcan team was quite conceited, and thought that vulcans were superior to humans in every way, and that only they were worthy of operating a starship.
As any good star trek dork would know, the vulcans are better than humans at everything, they are smarter, stronger, faster, more inventive. A vulcan child would think of the most fantastic human inventions as toys.
Vulcans dont use bias in making any of their decisions, they choose the best course of action by following advanced logic, whereas humans rely on instinct, and feelings in addition to a lower level logic system.
So the Vulcan baseball team challenged the deep space nine crew, and absolutely kicked their asses, the DS9 team scored maybe once or twice.
After the baseball game outside of the holosuite, the vulcan team was acting proud(without showing their emotions of course), hoping that the humans would be sad and agree that they were inferior.
But it didn't happen, the DS9 crew was laughing, they had fun playing baseball. They were proud of what they did together, despite the fact that the vulcans kicked their asses.
The vulcans went home, with their mission to piss off the DS9 crew and make them feel inferior unnacomplished. The captain of the vulcan team had that angry jealous look in his eye, and got even more pissed off when a human noticed, so he threw a tantrum and left.
This ASOT vs elite stuff kind of reminds me of vulcans vs the crew of DS9. The ASOT side being the humans, and the vulcans symbolising the elites. You "elites" can be as superior as you want, your music might be more inventive, it might be more original, it might pwn in comparison to the trance that comes out today.
But humans just dont give a about those things, they have feelings and biases, they like having fun. Win all the contests, make all the comparisons that you want, the kids are still gonna go out and have a good time, and its not gonna be with your "superior" music because all we ever hear from you elites is complaining.
Humans have done many amazing things that the vulcans said were impossible.
It doesnt matter if something is forward thinking or not, lets just shut up, go out, and have some fun. |
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| RickyM |
| Oh for the love of all that is ing holy, when will you get it into your head that people listen to a genre because they like the sound of it. So if people like 'McProg'? Why do you feel so strongly about it that you have to upload post after post of your dull, boring hate campaign against a genre of music? Get a laugh you sad wee bastard. |
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| Phortastic |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ory
What does that have to do with anything? Why am I not allowed to analyze music? |
cause you get insulting and disrespecfull to other people in the progress, you dumb . |
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| Ory |
| quote: | Originally posted by RickyM
Oh for the love of all that is ing holy, when will you get it into your head that people listen to a genre because they like the sound of it. So if people like 'McProg'? Why do you feel so strongly about it that you have to upload post after post of your dull, boring hate campaign against a genre of music? Get a laugh you sad wee bastard. |
Yes, because the internet = real life. :rolleyes: |
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| Ory |
| quote: | Originally posted by Phortastic
cause you get insulting and disrespecfull to other people in the progress, you dumb . |
Isn't that what you're doing right now? Not complaining or anything, but don't you think we're all ing hypocrites? |
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| Phortastic |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zombie0915
This reminds me of the star trek episode where the vulcans challenged the crew of deep space nine to a baseball game.
The captain of the vulcan team was quite conceited, and thought that vulcans were superior to humans in every way, and that only they were worthy of operating a starship.
As any good star trek dork would know, the vulcans are better than humans at everything, they are smarter, stronger, faster, more inventive. A vulcan child would think of the most fantastic human inventions as toys.
Vulcans dont use bias in making any of their decisions, they choose the best course of action by following advanced logic, whereas humans rely on instinct, and feelings in addition to a lower level logic system.
So the Vulcan baseball team challenged the deep space nine crew, and absolutely kicked their asses, the DS9 team scored maybe once or twice.
After the baseball game outside of the holosuite, the vulcan team was acting proud(without showing their emotions of course), hoping that the humans would be sad and agree that they were inferior.
But it didn't happen, the DS9 crew was laughing, they had fun playing baseball. They were proud of what they did together, despite the fact that the vulcans kicked their asses.
The vulcans went home, with their mission to piss off the DS9 crew and make them feel inferior unnacomplished. The captain of the vulcan team had that angry jealous look in his eye, and got even more pissed off when a human noticed, so he threw a tantrum and left.
This ASOT vs elite stuff kind of reminds me of vulcans vs the crew of DS9. The ASOT side being the humans, and the vulcans symbolising the elites. You "elites" can be as superior as you want, your music might be more inventive, it might be more original, it might pwn in comparison to the trance that comes out today.
But humans just dont give a about those things, they have feelings and biases, they like having fun. Win all the contests, make all the comparisons that you want, the kids are still gonna go out and have a good time, and its not gonna be with your "superior" music because all we ever hear from you elites is complaining.
Humans have done many amazing things that the vulcans said were impossible.
It doesnt matter if something is forward thinking or not, lets just shut up, go out, and have some fun. |
fantastic post, and a great comparison :D
im a little biased as a star trek fan though ;)
but its a good point and a great comparison :) |
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| Phortastic |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ory
Isn't that what you're doing right now? Not complaining or anything, but don't you think we're all ing hypocrites? |
dude dont you get it, i act against you like you act against everyone here on this board.
i do act with respect against all other normal people here on this board. |
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| RickyM |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ory
Yes, because the internet = real life. :rolleyes: |
Where did I say it was, numbnuts? I was just drawing to others attention that you are a moany :) |
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| Zombie0915 |
always nice to hear that someone else appreciates star trek
I prefer the klingon way of thinking myself
kapla! |
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| Litheon |
| quote: | | Originally posted by Zombie0915 This reminds me of the star trek episode where the vulcans challenged the crew of deep space nine to a baseball game. The captain of the vulcan team was quite conceited, and thought that vulcans were superior to humans in every way, and that only they were worthy of operating a starship. As any good star trek dork would know, the vulcans are better than humans at everything, they are smarter, stronger, faster, more inventive. A vulcan child would think of the most fantastic human inventions as toys. Vulcans dont use bias in making any of their decisions, they choose the best course of action by following advanced logic, whereas humans rely on instinct, and feelings in addition to a lower level logic system. So the Vulcan baseball team challenged the deep space nine crew, and absolutely kicked their asses, the DS9 team scored maybe once or twice. After the baseball game outside of the holosuite, the vulcan team was acting proud(without showing their emotions of course), hoping that the humans would be sad and agree that they were inferior. But it didn't happen, the DS9 crew was laughing, they had fun playing baseball. They were proud of what they did together, despite the fact that the vulcans kicked their asses. The vulcans went home, with their mission to piss off the DS9 crew and make them feel inferior unnacomplished. The captain of the vulcan team had that angry jealous look in his eye, and got even more pissed off when a human noticed, so he threw a tantrum and left. This ASOT vs elite stuff kind of reminds me of vulcans vs the crew of DS9. The ASOT side being the humans, and the vulcans symbolising the elites. You "elites" can be as superior as you want, your music might be more inventive, it might be more original, it might pwn in comparison to the trance that comes out today. But humans just dont give a about those things, they have feelings and biases, they like having fun. Win all the contests, make all the comparisons that you want, the kids are still gonna go out and have a good time, and its not gonna be with your "superior" music because all we ever hear from you elites is complaining. Humans have done many amazing things that the vulcans said were impossible. It doesnt matter if something is forward thinking or not, lets just shut up, go out, and have some fun. |
I agree, fantastic post! :D |
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