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Drugs In The Scene (pg. 2)
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| djtrinity |
| quote: | Originally posted by Freak
I disagree with you there mate sorry- quite strongly actually. |
;) your more than free to do that!.....just my opinion |
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| Zild |
| I used to do a lot of drugs. I didn't get into the scene because of drugs because I had already used em all before I went to my first party. I stayed in the scene for the music and the great people I've met and become friends with because of our shared love for the music. I stopped the drugs when every single one of my friends went to rehab or failed out of school. I almost failed out of school too but I was able to barely hang on. DJing is better than drugs anyway. If you're afraid to get back into the scene because of the drugs try making friends with people at parties that go sober or don't do hard drugs, thats what I did. |
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| Exodus17 |
good points
i was kinda heavy for a while untill i got my decks and realized how much $ i was eating that i could have been spinning...
layed off the tabs, still smoke in moderation... only drugs worth buying for me are hallucinogens
its true you dont need drugs to have a good time but if youve ever been to an event where a good majority were sober you prolly noticed how dead the dancefloor was... the drugs open alot of ppl up to going out and dancing whereas without them theyre too busy thinking about how cool they look standing around... |
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| Derivative |
i got into trance basically through hardcore and freeform nights in and around southampton. thats about 4 years of that. im 22 now. i got into that scene because of the music. no doubt about it. id always liked dance type music and i heard scooter's and the beat goes on! when i was 14 or so and never really knew what that type of music was called. one of the few records i was ashamed to like actually. ha! it was a coincidence that most of the people in that particular scene were mashed. so i got mashed too. never that frequently or that hard mind. because ive seen some people that drop too many, too fast...and they just arent really there. and also amazingly ugly with their bug eyes and jaw sticking out further than their nose. heheheh. then again, when ive dropped, i wasnt really thinking about how weird i looked. heh. i smoked pot on a regularish basis around that time (about an 1/8th a week. sometimes more. not that much by many standards) for about 2 years. got very broke as a result.
around that time i lived with a bunch of people who are kind of lifelong friends but they all cained it pretty hard. we had a TV back then and i remember alot of wasted days where we could all have gotten off our asses and done something productive instead of winding up stoned and zoning out in front of the TV. even just made conversation. i would have been happy if everyone smoked, put on a CD and talked. so me and one of my housemates kind of took it down a notch and now we only smoke in the company of friends. my other ex housemates still continue to caine it as hard as they ever did. heading for smokers cough and lung cancer to be honest.
i dont regret any of the times i tried out drugs. i dont regret the bad trip (that time on amazonians when i blacked out i consider to be one of the scariest, most horrible, most valuable experiences ive ever put myself through)
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on the flipside im coming to the realisation that i didnt really need to do any of those to enjoy or feel is if i was benefitting from something spiritually or whatever. and in some cases myself and my friends were smoking pot cuz we didnt really know what else to do. what to do today? get some friends round and smoke up? yep. that happens every day right?
actually theres been alot of experiences ive had when i was high on life that outdid some of the drug experiences. travelling in malaysia was so exhilarating. i want to go back there. the first time you do an mdma bomb, it'll be amazing. totally. its just something you will never have experienced before. keep doing mdma bombs every weekend and you'll...not exactly get used to the feeling. but it will lose that sense of newness and the feeling will become duller. and the stupid part is when you keep on doing mdma bombs even when you dont really enjoy them, cuz you dont know what else to do.
i just try to look for new experiences now. sometimes they will be drug related. more often though they are not. i got into production about a year ago and its a very engaging way to spend your time (i admit ive let my social life and my degree slide quite a bit because of the time ive invested in music production. but it always throws new challenges up. i find it consistantly challenging. im always learning new things. or fixing mistakes. im always moving forward. slowly and not fast enough, but definitely forward. which is a good feeling.
whilst i sort of agree with trinity that you have to drop a pill or a bomb to really understand the kind of mindset of the average person on the slinky dancefloor, i dont think thats necessarily a good mindset to let dominate your music. its just more complex than that.
with alot of the psy i listen to and aspire to write, its just deeper than tripping the out. although tripping can be an amazing, overwhelming experience, alot of the psy i listen to has moments of sobriety.
that said, when lab4 dropped candyman in slinky and that carl orf sample (oh fortuna) starts to fade in, you can look around you and see a see of glowsticks, held by thousands of mashed up, bug eyed ravers all looking as if god has just slapped them in the face. its priceless. but not something i wanna see or do or experience too much of. it just dulls the sense of wonder. its sad but i know a few people who have become a bit bitter and jaded about the whole thing. its time to move on and experience something new. |
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| beats and beeps |
I have never seen a dj big into drugs that I have respect for, except maybe carl cox (I dont know if he is into drugs though)and sasha (again lots of rumours but no proof)
Drug ed djs can become famous sure, but 99% them ing suck. (See: The Infamous Keoki)
The majority of good djs do not use drugs regularly, hell most of the new good djs (Zabiela etc) are claiming that they never have done drugs at all, although theres a high chance they are just saying that because it looks good. |
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| Derivative |
drugs for the purpose of mind expansion. thats cool. i kind of believe that everyone should trip at least once in their lifetime. just to get an idea of what its like to have your senses so deranged. even a bad trip is a very valuable experience. you can learn alot about yourself going through one of these - what type of person you are, how insecure or comfortable you feel with yourself, how insecure or comfortable you feel around others, how you react when you are put into a situation which is outside of your control, your own limits in emotional, mental and physical terms.
if you take it ultimately as a positive experience from which you can gain spiritually - i see that as a very valuable lesson in life. i think i would have been a very different person otherwise. for the worse i feel if i had not munched an 1/8th of shrooms and went under in front of about 10 people.
yes its a bit pathetic. but it wakes you up when the trip has passed in many ways. and you stay awake for a long time afterwards because its an unmittigated nightmare of an experience that makes you sit up and think. why did you go under? what made you go under? why did you feel so nervous? why is it when you trip whilst you are nervous, the experience turns very sour, very quickly? was there any need to feel nervous? how much time do you spend being nervous and how has being nervous prevented you from living your life as fully as you could want to live it? why do you put yourself through this?
thats not to say that you should do this kind of thing all the time. when you do things for the sake of doing them, or for lack of knowing what else to do then it can become a problem. as with anything.
some people eat themselves into a rut. some people starve themselves into a rut. some disappear into themselves, become introverted, shy, depressed, suicidal whatever and some piss their lives away on drugs. i dont really draw the distinction between drug abuse and any other kind of self abuse.
alot of drug ed djs suck because they forgot what it was that originally made them want to do what they do, in between railing lines of snow. |
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| Fëanor |
| I never did, and I will probably never do... I'm happy with my state of mind. |
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| Vero |
| drugs and music just go hand in hand together, whatever the drug and whatever the music might be. go to a rock concert and find a lot od people drinking and smoking pot, maybe even some tripping. of course in our scene extacy is the most prevelant thing we encounter. like many of us i was also introduced to the music and the pills at the same time. since then i have found a true love for the music, a better understanding of myself and other people, and know how to have a good time. yes i still do drungs every now and again, but its very controlled and only for special occasions. i agree with most of the comments made in this thread, and will only add that accepting the drugs is essential in accepting the music, you cant have the scene without the drugs. if you are afriad that you will not beable to control yourself in this environment then you shoudl remove yourself from it. there is a difference between being around thr drugs, using the drugs, and abusing the drugs. good luck with you music, and remember to allways party safely and responsibly. |
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| Derivative |
music is 10 times better when you are tripping. you can hear *everything*
music is pretty amazing whilst pilling too.
it just seems to make more sense. |
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| 3xx3r7 |
drugs.
I got into the scene for the love of trance music, not for some trippy ed-up joyride. |
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| Omega_Blue |
I like drugs.
...and I like EDM. |
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| Dirk W. |
I never needed drugs to get into the scene. I am actually sad when I look around and see a room of 15 year olds rolling so hard they physically look like they OD'd, but naw, they're having "the time of their life". This irresponsible use is what led to the bad image of the scene in the media and ultimately the RAVE act.
Drugs didn't make the scene, its wrecking it.
As for the history, yea they were there from the start... But now that it's not so underground (in the media headlights especially) it is the responsibility of the partygoer's to act responsible for their actions. If you love the scene and want it to continue, you might want to keep your drugs out of it and encourage others to do the same. |
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