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The most important person of the 20th century would have been... (pg. 4)
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| Rhand |
| quote: | Originally posted by kush paintings
Good point with Lenin, which got me thinking about history. George Washington perhaps. The man, along with others, were responsible for making democracy what it is today. |
But then again, George Washington was in 1900 already 100 years dead (if I'm not mistaken). So not of any use in this poll...
I voted for Einstein. Pretty amazing what he has done for science and the world of today...
And again if I'm not mistaken, didn't the scientists during WO II make the atombom based on Einsteins theory's??
Why was Lenin actually so important? Like someone gave as an argument at Einstein. If he wasn't there to do it, someone else would have. Like Stalin or Trotski or someone else from the Bolsjewists/Mensjewists. They were all same-minded (not at every point, but mostly) |
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| Important_Man |
| Me of course! |
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| JuB jUb |
| quote: | Originally posted by Rhand
Why was Lenin actually so important? |
He basically put the ideas of Communism/socialism by Karl Marx into the real world. Trotsky did help, but it was Lenin who really got things in motion and pushed for Bolshevik takeover in 1917. Without Lenin, Trotsky wouldn't have joined the Bolsheviks in the first place as he was opposed to the structure of the party. Stalin only had influence after the death of Lenin when the foundations of Communism had already been laid. The repercussions of a communist soviet state are quite incredible... the cold war just to name one. |
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| Blik |
| Hitler was the most important person of th 20th century (but not in a good way though) |
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| Rhand |
| quote: | Originally posted by JuB jUb
He basically put the ideas of Communism/socialism by Karl Marx into the real world. Trotsky did help, but it was Lenin who really got things in motion and pushed for Bolshevik takeover in 1917. Without Lenin, Trotsky wouldn't have joined the Bolsheviks in the first place as he was opposed to the structure of the party. Stalin only had influence after the death of Lenin when the foundations of Communism had already been laid. The repercussions of a communist soviet state are quite incredible... the cold war just to name one. |
Trotski never joined the Bolsheviks?? They were together in the Communistic Party. Then they had a fight and the party splitted to Lenin's Bolsheviks and Trotski's Mensheviks... |
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| JuB jUb |
| quote: | Originally posted by Rhand
Trotski never joined the Bolsheviks?? They were together in the Communistic Party. Then they had a fight and the party splitted to Lenin's Bolsheviks and Trotski's Mensheviks... |
Incorrect, when the the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party split (not the 'Communistic' party) Trotsky ended up between the two camps, unhappy with the ideology of both. However, the Mensheviks gradually eroded and Trotsky became pretty much Lenin's right hand man after the February Revolution. In 1917 he became a member of the Central Committe of the Bolshevik Party.
Check up on your history! Trotsky was a Bolshevik. |
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| Rhand |
| quote: | Originally posted by JuB jUb
Incorrect, when the the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party split (not the 'Communistic' party) Trotsky ended up between the two camps, unhappy with the ideology of both. However, the Mensheviks gradually eroded and Trotsky became pretty much Lenin's right hand man after the February Revolution. In 1917 he became a member of the Central Committe of the Bolshevik Party.
Check up on your history! Trotsky was a Bolshevik. |
1) I lost the name of the party, so I gave it a name :P
2) I always learned in school that Lenin and Trotsky had an argument in Londen at a meating of the party and that's the reason for the splitting in the RSDLP. Bolsheviks with Lenin and Mensheviks with Trotsky... |
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| JuB jUb |
| After the split Martov became leader of the Mensheviks, never Trotsky. |
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| Rhand |
| quote: | Originally posted by JuB jUb
After the split Martov became leader of the Mensheviks, never Trotsky. |
My bad... Just asked a couple of "specialists" and they all say I'm wrong.
What is wrong with this world that even the information you learn at school isn't correct anymore :conf: |
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| JuB jUb |
| yeah... thats pretty messed up |
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| LeopoldStotch |
| i chose fdr .. (u forgot there were two roosevelts .. teddy and franklin ) .. although teddy was critical in history (part of the red raiders against santa anna and mexico) .. fdr made the "new deal" and was the stepping stone for the us to be the super powerhouse of the world like it is now .. there were other events that transpired the us to gain it's status, but i feel the "new deal" was the one that broke it out .. |
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