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Looks like the nightclub story isnt going away (pg. 3)
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| OrZonE |
| quote: | Originally posted by starsearcher
Gotta love the Ghetto Fabulous fat biatches in Scarborough I see on the bus every morning :haha: :haha: :haha: The funny thing is...they're all white with a serious identity crisis :crazy: |
wiggaz unite!:stongue: |
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| starsearcher |
| quote: | Originally posted by OrZonE
wiggaz unite!:stongue: |
:stongue: :haha: Waxed eyebrows to the max, heavy makeup, ugly tight jeans (with a FAT ASSSS), timberland stlye boots (with heels), super jelled back hair - so tight the skin's not moving...wearing baby phat clothes and talking all ghetto :disbelief :clown: :clown: ah man...but on the other hand I look just as funny to them probabbly |
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| Pettiscool |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tordan
So true... I used to enjoy rap back in early 90s when it wasn't all about guns' n hos' |
i still enjoy the old school |
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| HouseJunkie |
I certainyl agree that the "ghetto lifestyle" imposed through most hip hop lyrics is negatively impacting youth in society, but to blame that completely is wrong. It all comes back to how you were raised, IMO. How your parents treated you and the values that they instilled in you while you were growing up.
That being said, no one on this board can tell me that after hours clubs aren't havens for drug use and sale. The crowds inside hip hop clubs have their own problems, and so do after hours.
Them media simply takes one facet of clubbing (staying open late) and runs off with it. Since it doesn't comply with their "standards" of what bar life should be (ie. closing down at 2 am), it chooses to take on small story and spread it over an entire scene. Just like ignorance is to blame with the thug/hip hop environment, so is it to blame with this spread of propaganda. |
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| Callie5 |
Quoting the media "only people out at 2, 3, 4"..etc. are scum.. they're not too worried about the people inside clubs they are more worried about the s wondering the streets looking for trouble.. The police actually call those hours
Witching hours of the night and it's true... it's when all the trouble starts |
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| mindspin |
| hip hop in general has gone downhill bigtime......early 90's hip hop was at its prime....ppl were pushing the boundries of what could be done....but not it sucks, no skill, no talent......its retarded.....and all these thug wanna be try to act tougher than you are fools piss me right off.....we live in canada?? |
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| bluE_Neon |
| I agree, it's all for show nowaday's. But you can't blame everything coz of hip hop, I mean there's quite good hip hop out there and it's the underground. The people that listen to underground hip hop, they respect their values, their thugs but these guy's aren't for show, their thugs because it's the way hip hop has been surrounded by it's culture of thugs for years. It's their lifestyle. |
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| cmack |
| It's true though, every scene has it's fair share of downfalls and negative aspects. Still, it's sad that everyone out after 2am is labelled scum. |
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| DJ Robben |
well obviously there are bad people on the streets at all times in the day, but which would sound more frightening, 2 pm , when the sun is out, and the streets are busy and everyone is in plain sight. Or having someone at 2 am, roaming the un-guarded streets when your kids are out at a club? it's a fear tactic, it has been used before, and it will be again.
And unfortunately, once the majority gets an idea in it's head...it's incredibly difficult to get them away from it. |
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| Tranceplanted |
I don't mean to start a flaming or anything, but this all sounds pretty insular to me. We're at a forum for people whose taste in music is quite obviously not hip hop, and proceeding to criticize and judge what went wrong with that sub culture and mindset.
By no means am I a fan of hip hop, but it seems almost as ludicrous as right wing groups to get together and then condemn the rest of the world as heathens and scum, and then to discuss it amongst themselves. What does that prove? That you can make a statement and then make sure you're surrounded by people who agree with you to prop up your argument by virtue of the mob?
It's a shame that the woman died, it's a shame that she had kids, it's a shame that the media are painting with the widest brush they have, but in all honesty, I don't think preaching to the choir is going to accomplish anything.
If the same woman died of an OD in an after hours club, I'm sure that we'd be collectively labeled a bunch of drugged out party goers, and judged by other groups the same way. People not familiar with the scene would say it promotes a culture of drug use and excessiveness. Is the scene to blame, or the people that push that lifestyle to the limits, that happen to be associated with the scene? Hip hop culture has cultivated an image of violence but does that excuse the people who decide to act upon it? Come on people, everyone has the right to choose what they do, and hip hop cannot be held solely to blame for the actions of what those men did. They chose to shoot that club, not hip hop. |
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| Carney |
| i also blame the media. they radio stations for playing the even the TTC for having 50 cent ads/etc on the side of a bus all there doing is promoting hate |
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| shanny |
Seems to me that the obvious thing being lost in all the coverage of these events is that regardless of whether its at a hip hop night or a trance night or a polka night far too many people are being shot.
How about they try to stop the problem at the roots like not letting people get ing guns instead of resolving to shut down night clubs.
That will just put the violence somewhere else, its like putting a bandaid on a broken leg. |
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