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Looks like the nightclub story isnt going away (pg. 4)
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| malek |
| its funny how your medias are focused on this non-issue while there's a big mess on the political scene, or maybe I'm getting a wrong impression. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tranceplanted
I don't mean to start a flaming or anything, but this all sounds pretty insular to me. We're at a forum for people whose taste in music is quite obviously not hip hop, and proceeding to criticize and judge what went wrong with that sub culture and mindset.
By no means am I a fan of hip hop, but it seems almost as ludicrous as right wing groups to get together and then condemn the rest of the world as heathens and scum, and then to discuss it amongst themselves. What does that prove? That you can make a statement and then make sure you're surrounded by people who agree with you to prop up your argument by virtue of the mob?
It's a shame that the woman died, it's a shame that she had kids, it's a shame that the media are painting with the widest brush they have, but in all honesty, I don't think preaching to the choir is going to accomplish anything.
If the same woman died of an OD in an after hours club, I'm sure that we'd be collectively labeled a bunch of drugged out party goers, and judged by other groups the same way. People not familiar with the scene would say it promotes a culture of drug use and excessiveness. Is the scene to blame, or the people that push that lifestyle to the limits, that happen to be associated with the scene? Hip hop culture has cultivated an image of violence but does that excuse the people who decide to act upon it? Come on people, everyone has the right to choose what they do, and hip hop cannot be held solely to blame for the actions of what those men did. They chose to shoot that club, not hip hop. |
You are somewhat correct in that not all hip hop clubs are violent. However the majority of the time when there is a shooting its a pure full on hardcore hip hop crowd. There is no denying this. At least at a rave you cant get hit by a stray pill. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
its funny how your medias are focused on this non-issue while there's a big mess on the political scene, or maybe I'm getting a wrong impression. |
Its called wag the dog. Get people focused on red herrings so they can be easily "solved" and it looks like they are actually doing something when they aren't.
George Bush is a master of this ont he world stage and so are our politicians locally. |
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| JRinger |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
You are somewhat correct in that not all hip hop clubs are violent. However the majority of the time when there is a shooting its a pure full on hardcore hip hop crowd. There is no denying this. At least at a rave you cant get hit by a stray pill. |
ummm....Film Lounge anyone???
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by JRinger
ummm....Film Lounge anyone???
:rolleyes: |
I said USUALLY ........ film lounge has its own set of problems. They are the "special child" of the EDM world. |
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| JRinger |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
I said USUALLY ........ film lounge has its own set of problems. They are the "special child" of the EDM world. |
really?
so the Guv has never had any shootings then? |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by JRinger
really?
so the Guv has never had any shootings then? |
once
in the hip hop room |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
once
in the hip hop room |
Yup it was about 4 yrs ago on a friday(hiphop night)the bouncer refused to let him in so he came back and shot the bouncer. :rolleyes: |
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| starsearcher |
I distinctly remember a bouncer being shot and killed at the entrance a few years ago at the Guv...
Oh yeah ok what he said... :p ^^^ |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by starsearcher
I distinctly remember a bouncer being shot and killed at the entrance a few years ago at the Guv...
Oh yeah ok what he said... :p ^^^ |
The bouncer was shot in the hip hop room by some little punk ass from regent park. I was there saw the whole thing. |
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| DarkWater |
omg you people are so funny. Sure, the type of music is to blame, not guns and bad security.
Aren't there shootings at Film all the time?? |
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| Callie5 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
The bouncer was shot in the hip hop room by some little punk ass from regent park. I was there saw the whole thing. |
doesn't matter what room it happend in.. IT HAPPENED |
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