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| ShadoWolf |
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/nati...mery050513.html
Liberal exec was 'racist,' Gomery inquiry told
Last Updated Fri, 13 May 2005 22:00:56 EDT
CBC News
MONTREAL - Former Liberal party fundraiser Beryl Wajsman, alleged to have engaged in questionable fundraising practices, has shot back at his accuser, calling him a racist.
* INDEPTH: Sponsorship Scandal
Beryl Wasjman
Daniel Dezainde, the former director general of the Liberal party's Quebec wing, told the sponsorship inquiry that he fired Wajsman in 2001. But Wajsman told the inquiry on Friday that he quit the party because Dezainde was intolerant.
"He was a racist," said Wajsman, who is Jewish.
Wajsman said he was hired as a consultant to cultivate Montreal's cultural minorities and bring money into the party – a job he claims wasn't being done by the finance commission.
Dezainde accused of wanting to keep out minorities
He alleged that Dezainde was totally opposed to members from ethnic communities sitting on the finance commission.
"Is it possible that you overreacted?" asked Justice John Gomery, who is leading the inquiry.
The judge suggested Dezainde was probably telling Wajsman that he couldn't "dictate to him the composition of the finance commission."
But Wajsman didn't sway, insisting Dezainde wanted to keep the party "closed."
Allegation 'ridiculous': Dezainde's boss
Dezainde wasn't available to respond, but his current boss, cabinet minister Jacques Saada, reacted with outrage.
"This is totally ridiculous, simply ridiculous," said Saada, who is minister of economic development for Quebec.
"I think he is a man of great character, great integrity and a very open-minded person. I think it's really unacceptable for him to be subjected to this kind of allegation."
In explosive testimony earlier in the week, Dezainde alleged that the Quebec wing had become "hostage" to an underground system of unauthorized and unreported fundraising activities spearheaded by Wajsman and Joseph Morselli.
* FROM MAY 11, 2005: Liberal stalwart talked of sponsorship kickbacks, inquiry hears
At the time, then Public Works Minister Alfonso Gagliano was the chief lieutenant in Quebec for Jean Chrétien, who was prime minister.
Dezainde said he eventually fired Wajsman, testifying it was the first concrete step he took in cleaning up a parallel system of fundraising that he felt damaged the party.
'There was no money exchanged'
But Wajsman denied these allegations and previous accusations that he took an envelope stuffed with $5,000 from ad man Jean Brault at a Montreal restaurant.
Brault told the inquiry that Morselli had asked him to give a bogus job to Wajsman when he fell out of favour with a top Liberal official.
Brault said he was asked to meet Morselli in an Italian restaurant and leave $5,000 in an envelope on the table for Wajsman. Brault testified that when he went to the washroom and returned, the cash was gone.
"There was no money exchanged, there was no envelope," Wajsman said on Thursday. "I don't take cash.
"Can you imagine me walking around with cash? My wife doesn't trust me to go to the grocery store." |
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| ShadoWolf |
http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/Colum...16/1041373.html
Real-life 'Libranos'
Questions of criminal activity remain unanswered
By Ezra Levant
When the Western Standard published a poster calling the Liberals "The Libranos", it was meant as satire -- comparing the money laundering and kick-back schemes of the Liberal party to the TV mob family, the Sopranos.
Ha ha, all in good fun. But Daniel Dezainde isn't laughing. Dezainde ran the Liberal party in Quebec from 2001 to 2003 and detected some funny business with how Alfonso Gagliano, the Liberal political minister for Quebec, ran the party's finances. When Dezainde expressed his concerns and fired a rogue fundraiser, Joe Morselli, Gagliano's fixer, pointed a finger in Dezainde's face and said he was declaring war on him.
Such a threat might not normally be taken seriously. But Morselli has been in wars before. In 1989, Morselli's car mysteriously exploded in a crime that has yet to be solved. Before Dezainde went to testify last week before the Gomery inquiry, he sought RCMP protection.
When a reporter asked Morselli if he had threatened Dezainde, Morselli answered simply that he didn't care if Dezainde "dropped dead."
Morselli isn't as nuanced as his boss. Gagliano himself called Benoit Corbeil, another Quebec Liberal executive who testified. If Corbeil said the wrong things, warned Gagliano, "people will come out against you, you'll lose your reputation and you'll lose friends."
Not too long ago, the New York Daily News reported an FBI informant tagged Gagliano as a "made member" of the Bonanno crime family. One shouldn't put too much stock in the words of a criminal who has cut a deal with police. But why would a New York mobster make up a story about a Canadian politician?
Why did Gagliano intervene to help the wife of Gaetano Amodeo, a mafia hitman, immigrate to Canada?
Why did the RCMP warn Jean Chretien against appointing Gagliano to cabinet in 1993?
How did Gagliano come to be an accountant for companies owned by Agostino rera, a man later jailed on conspiracy charges for the killing of Paolo Violi, a Montreal mafioso?
Is it credible that a sophisticated man such as Gagliano didn't know who he was dealing with in rera and Amodeo?
Is it credible Chretien didn't know who he was dealing with in Gagliano?
Is it credible Paul Martin didn't know either -- as recently as last summer, when he recorded a video greeting to Gagliano, calling him a great man and a great political leader?
Gagliano calls such questions anti-Italian -- so does Joe Volpe, the immigration minister, who called the Libranos poster anti-Italian.
Nom they're not anti-Italian. They're anti-criminal.
Take it from another Italian-Canadian: Giuliano Zaccardelli, commissioner of the RCMP. In a news conference in 2000, Zaccardelli warned that the mafia was reaching into Parliament.
"We are seeing signs of criminal organizations that are so sophisticated that they actually are focusing on destabilizing certain aspects of our society. ... There are criminal organizations that target this destabilization of our parliamentary system," he told reporters.
This is too big for the Gomery inquiry, which is limited to the sponsorship program. Gomery has no authority to follow trails of criminal influence outside the sponsorship programs. For example, he disallowed questions about corrupt appointments to the judiciary.
AdScam is only the tip of the Libranos' iceberg. No wonder Daniel Dezainde cried on the witness stand. |
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| Arsondude2.0 |
Youre really jaded arent you...go out and live a little.
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| Arsondude2.0 |
This is not true. They are patriarchal and do not want to power of the country to go into other peoples hands...the conservatives are white man driven. They hate gay people.
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| ChadVanDyk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Arsondude2.0
the conservatives are white man driven.
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So is my car...don't worry..neither are that scary. |
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| ShadoWolf |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChadVanDyk
So is my car...don't worry..neither are that scary. |
I apologize for that ignorant comment from my fellow Ontarian... unfortunately there are MANY more here like him. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Arsondude2.0
This is not true. They are patriarchal and do not want to power of the country to go into other peoples hands...the conservatives are white man driven. They hate gay people.
Arsondude |
they dont but you seem to hate straight white men.....
All i see in your posts are hate filled comments towards a certain type of person and im getting sick of it. |
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| swilly |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Of course not...but clearly that would be the spin of media coverage had this comment come from a conservative instead of a Liberal:
PS: calling Liberals mafiosos has nothing to do with italians but calling the conservatives kaln members is a very direct racist statement since the clan stands for racism. |
Are you some kind of idiot? Racism implies that there is discrimination against a ethnic group or race. Hence the term Racism. Stating that a group has similar views to a racist organization is not racism. Discriminating against a political group is not even racism.
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by swilly
Are you some kind of idiot? Racism implies that there is discrimination against a ethnic group or race. Hence the term Racism. Stating that a group has similar views to a racist organization is not racism. Discriminating against a political group is not even racism.
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swilly |
im sure he wouldnt have called them klan members had they been native or black.
right?
These commentaries themselves dont offend me.. Hey people can call me caker, whitey, cracker, klan member, all they want. Its when people who object to these comments when referred to other groups in society yet freely spout off their own racist comments. That kind of hypocrisy DOES offend me. |
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| swilly |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Isnt it racist to suggest that certain groups can use certain words but others cant?
Ill never understand that. Words are either ok or not ok. |
When african americans use the N word and when gays call each other fag they are taking away the power of that word and giving it a differnt meaning. Orginally the N word had a very deragatory and negative meaning to it. Through the use of Black americans taking this word and changing its meaning and empowering it in someways it has totally changed the context and usage of this word. But to suggest that white people not being able to call black people ******s is racist is a ridiculas. As the the intial word in its original meaning was infact a racist term and regardless of what we do when white people use it it will always have that meaning. that black people can say it is a form of overcoming thier oppresion.
Much like aboriginals we all call each other red skin and drunken Indians. But first honkey that says anything like that to me, gets a swift punch in the mouth.
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by swilly
But first honkey that says anything like that to me, gets a swift punch in the mouth.
swilly |
You were starting to convince me a little until you threw in your own racist jab...
try again next time. |
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| swilly |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
im sure he wouldnt have called them klan members had they been native or black.
right?
These commentaries themselves dont offend me.. Hey people can call me caker, whitey, cracker, klan member, all they want. Its when people who object to these comments when referred to other groups in society yet freely spout off their own racist comments. That kind of hypocrisy DOES offend me. |
No he probably wouldnt of called them clan members had they not been such a racist group of twats is more like it! |
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