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Usher - Caught Up (Sander Kleinenberg Remix) (pg. 9)
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| montana |
ok, i'll throw my 2 cents into this
i for one do not consider producers selling out when remixing pop acts, infact some of my favourite tracks of all time are remixes of pop acts, but yes, the level of credibility with in a producer is at stake when remixing an pop artist, as armand van helden said once
| quote: | | when record labels ask for a dance remix* what they really ask for is a exchange of "street credibility", and as a producer you must know what you are getting yourself into. |
the number one critizism against remixes of pop acts is that most of these remixes are not good at all and most of them are done for quick cash, and this is where you can blame the producer. if you have a fairly bad remix done by a credible artist, you wonder why did the remixers say yes and take the cash if the remixer knew that he/she/they couldn't work something good out of the track. when this happens then you can call the remixer a sellout.
*meaning when they ask a "regular" producer and not someone like hex hector,victor calderone,barry harris,chris cox and the others |
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| tiesto14 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Durrrtysouth
Oh and for the clueless one that says Sander doesnt play the same all the time, You are dead wrong. He plays the same sets with a few changes every time he plys at Space here in Miami. The difference between Sander and other DJs, Sander doesnt let his get broadcast therefor you dont hear it all the time. Its the same exact thing with Desyn Masello. Still playing the same as from his essential mix from last year. |
I saw Sander 5 times in the past 5 months....different sets each time...
I have live sets from him from gigs 2 weeks apart and they were also different sets...so um ya...you are wrong kiddo. |
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| ZzZ The Goddess |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj tek
i will NOT support this... edm producers think any pop that has danceable element should be remixed.. that. in corn puff ... |
I agree, and actually what I heard from the sample. It sucks, I would rather listen to the original Usher version and that is saying alot. |
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| m0sh |
| quote: | Originally posted by montana
ok, i'll throw my 2 cents into this
i for one do not consider producers selling out when remixing pop acts, infact some of my favourite tracks of all time are remixes of pop acts, but yes, the level of credibility with in a producer is at stake when remixing an pop artist, as armand van helden said once
the number one critizism against remixes of pop acts is that most of these remixes are not good at all and most of them are done for quick cash, and this is where you can blame the producer. if you have a fairly bad remix done by a credible artist, you wonder why did the remixers say yes and take the cash if the remixer knew that he/she/they couldn't work something good out of the track. when this happens then you can call the remixer a sellout.
*meaning when they ask a "regular" producer and not someone like hex hector,victor calderone,barry harris,chris cox and the others |
I couldn't say that better...people who refuse to listen to a track because its mainstream!?
WTF?!
All the tracks with viedo that goes on the tv is ****ing mainstream |
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| tiesto14 |
Some of you people bitch and moan about Djs doing things for just for money.
Have you stopped to think that this is not their hobby but their proffesion?
There is only a handful of people who care if a DJ plays mainstream tracks or 0-day releases...and the DJ plays for those people who dont care...the people who are so busy dancing and not checking every beatmatch or writing down every track so they can look uber elite on TA with a full tracklists...
Do you know what a sound board cost? Or any good equipment? It can run hundreds of thousands of dollars. |
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| Blue. |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
Some of you people bitch and moan about Djs doing things for just for money. |
I agree with you there. It's not as though a DJ who's constantly touring and producing music has enough time to go get a job at his local McDonalds.
I'm sure that they all consider DJing to be a profession and not just a hobby and you get paid for a profession. Being able to sell tshirts and get paid big money to do larger events and to remix commercial tracks is like working in an office and getting a promotion.
Would you call someone a sellout because they got promoted? Maybe, but it would be out of jealousy, and that would likely be the case of everyone screaming "SELLOUT". If not that then it has something to do with "I'm more underground than you".
It gets a little pathetic when you won't listen to a DJ just because he remixed a commercial track or played at Disneyland. I didn't hear anyone complaining when he did his Rock Your Body remix, because it was awesome. Now that a track has mixed reviews I guess people are firing up their egos and wanting to make attacks on an artist just out of boredom. Go outside, go to a club, go get laid, go get something but quit complaining. Listen or don't, it's your choice but don't bring the BS here, go get a therapist or something. |
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| Aiwendil |
| yeah, why would a professional DJ go get a job at mcdonalds when they could play other people's music for 5,000 bucks an hour. |
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| UWM |
| Hydarnes and Durrtysouth would make the bestest of friends! |
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| Blue. |
| quote: | Originally posted by Aiwendil
yeah, why would a professional DJ go get a job at mcdonalds when they could play other people's music for 5,000 bucks an hour. |
Exactly, it's just a profession. Sure a lot of them enjoy it and live to see the fans raise their hands when they drop a killer tune but I'm sure a lot of them also like to make money. It doesn't make them bad people or "sellouts" and it isn't anyone elses business really.
People forget that it's a job, they get paid for it. While they may love to do it it puts food on the table and I'm sure it's not all that easy to just say "no I don't want to put my song in a coke commercial for a million dollars".
I'd love to see you turn down a few million dollars to play at Disneyland or to put your song in a commercial. You can't say you wouldn't do it until you're offered and it's easy to say a DJ is a sellout when you're not making nearly as much cash. |
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| Aiwendil |
| i never said i wouldn't take the million bucks. the difference between me and tiesto would be that i wouldn't pretend i didn't do it for the million bucks. |
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| Durrrtysouth |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
Some of you people bitch and moan about Djs doing things for just for money.
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Sander wants to remix Usher to make his car payment, then fine. But he shouldnt expect people on Tranceaddict to praise him for it. You agree to remix something like this, then accept the backlash that will surely follow. |
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| Blue. |
| quote: | Originally posted by Aiwendil
i never said i wouldn't take the million bucks. the difference between me and tiesto would be that i wouldn't pretend i didn't do it for the million bucks. |
Mainly the first paragraph was directed as a reply to your quote, not so much the rest. Tiesto seams to have a great time at his shows though so while he might love the money he rakes in, I think he loves being around fans of his and spinning 90% of his own tracks :stongue:. |
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