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DJing and Production - 2 TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS. (pg. 4)
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Antistatic
lol sid..:haha:
eRRaTiK
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Originally posted by Nyquist_Theorem
artists were getting robbed by the RIAA/MPAA and many other negative forces within the music industry long before the internet came along -


that is true, but with the popularity of internet, audio formats like mp3, and p2p networks (starting with the original napster) you can't say that the problem isn't a whole lot bigger today.
narcism
at the end of the day this debate will just keep going around in circles, dj's cant survive without producers and vice versa.
gumble
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Originally posted by ONION
Its called a LIVE Act... and no you wont see them "produce" on stage but its the closest thing to it...

Secondly not everyone can grab a copy of Reason/Cubase/FLStudio and write good music... It takes years of practice to create sounds from scratch and make them EXACTLY the way you want them ... It takes years of practice to be able to write music that actually has substance, that actually goes somewhere...

A DJ's job is to control a crowds state of mind using other peoples music... There is no comparison. Its like going to an Art Exhibition...who do you think people really give a about? The Artists or the dude who puts on the exhibition? When you go see a movie do people give two s about the guy who put the reel of film in the movie projector... or the director of the movie?

Sure not everyone can put on an art exhibition... or even put reel of film in a projector for that matter... I know what I would prefer to do.


please more people listen to this guy.

<3


Personally, I prefer to see local bands over international DJs now. Well not entirely true, but not far from it.
jåcë
quote:
Originally posted by ONION
Its called a LIVE Act... and no you wont see them "produce" on stage but its the closest thing to it...

Secondly not everyone can grab a copy of Reason/Cubase/FLStudio and write good music... It takes years of practice to create sounds from scratch and make them EXACTLY the way you want them ... It takes years of practice to be able to write music that actually has substance, that actually goes somewhere...

A DJ's job is to control a crowds state of mind using other peoples music... There is no comparison. Its like going to an Art Exhibition...who do you think people really give a about? The Artists or the dude who puts on the exhibition? When you go see a movie do people give two s about the guy who put the reel of film in the movie projector... or the director of the movie?

Sure not everyone can put on an art exhibition... or even put reel of film in a projector for that matter... I know what I would prefer to do.



and that my friends, is the nail in the coffin

that of course isn't to say that DJing is not an artform
RobSolaris
quote:
Originally posted by muli
yes of course i would love to play one of the bigger parties both here and overseas, but the reality of it is, will that ever happen?


not is impossible for you mr muli :)
you can do it! :P
DaveBegic
^^ dumbass..

vivid skies and gemini.. too great tuens by mr funk function himself, plus he has a few remixes ont he react label

(thats in reply to jules who wrote "+1 lucien foort" but chickened out after he got pwned).
Light The Fuse
hahaha...i deleted, but yer i 3 budwiesers got me a little excitied, so yer, Lucien is a great dj who has made a rep as a dj more than a producer imo

anywho....

+1 Danny Howells
+1 Mark Dynamix lolz :/
rez
quote:
Originally posted by ONION
Its called a LIVE Act... and no you wont see them "produce" on stage but its the closest thing to it...

Secondly not everyone can grab a copy of Reason/Cubase/FLStudio and write good music... It takes years of practice to create sounds from scratch and make them EXACTLY the way you want them ... It takes years of practice to be able to write music that actually has substance, that actually goes somewhere...

A DJ's job is to control a crowds state of mind using other peoples music... There is no comparison. Its like going to an Art Exhibition...who do you think people really give a about? The Artists or the dude who puts on the exhibition? When you go see a movie do people give two s about the guy who put the reel of film in the movie projector... or the director of the movie?

Sure not everyone can put on an art exhibition... or even put reel of film in a projector for that matter... I know what I would prefer to do.


lol couldnt agree more...

I didn't say that Julez ya tart, we were discussing Begics idea of how there are too many DJ's, I merely stated that to stick out amongst the DJ population the next step would be to produce...

Fair enough producers don't make good DJ's, but I'm sure alot of you would agree that when a producer drops his own track, it means that much more.

eg. M.i.k.e dropping Universal Nation at TT a couple of years back...
or Tiesto dropping Lethal Industry a at r00m a while ago
Light The Fuse
quote:
Originally posted by rez
lol couldnt agree more...

I didn't say that Julez ya tart, we were discussing Begics idea of how there are too many DJ's, I merely stated that to stick out amongst the DJ population the next step would be to produce...

Fair enough producers don't make good DJ's, but I'm sure alot of you would agree that when a producer drops his own track, it means that much more.

eg. M.i.k.e dropping Universal Nation at TT a couple of years back...
or Tiesto dropping Lethal Industry a at r00m a while ago


yeah i know man. Im not silly, i understand that production (if its good ebough) will catapult you to the strastophere (if thats what ur after), im just saying that after a few years experience going out and listening to the international dj's, it gets on my nerves when someone is paid 10 grand and cannot play.

You can always hear the experienced guys...like look at tiesto, yeah im not his greatest fan anymore, but he is a great crowd pleaser DJ:- yeah his remixes and tracks might have taken him to the next level, but his DJing (all 15 odd years of exp.) again takes him up a level above the next level.....or something.

jåcë
Lucien produces under many aliases, hes made tons of stuff most commonly under Funk Function and Dutch Liquid

Danny Howells has a few productions and remixes under his belt, he goes by Science Dept. and Squelch

The only highly regarded DJ that I know of that doesnt produce is Guy Ornadel
Light The Fuse
Pete Tong only recently had his first production released

...but yeah things were diferent back in the day.
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