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Welcome Private Health Care (Quebec first, Canada next?) (pg. 4)
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| preylude |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
I nearly choked on my orange juice when i read this. |
..."[It] is commonly believed that income taxes in Canada are much higher than in the United States. Let's compare 2003 rates:"
"Someone with an income of CDN$30,000 in Canada paid 11.9%, or CDN$3559 federal income tax. Someone in the United States, making USD$30,000 ended up paying USD$4310 federal tax, or about 14.4%."
"An individual making CDN$60,000 paid CDN$10,028 or about 16.7%. The U.S. amount for USD$60,000 is USD$13,810 or about 23%. That is probably shocking to most Canadians. Please note this comparison does not include State or Provincial taxes -- which could add between 0% to 10%, depending on where you live. It also does not factor in tax deductions, which can vary greatly on an individual basis."
"Futhermore, the average Canadian income in $CAD is higher than the average U.S. income in $USD. In 2001, the average family income in Canada was $60,300CAD. In that same year, the US average was $42,228USD (or roughly $57,000CAD at a 1.35 exchange rate). This contradicts another popular myth that the average American makes more money."
"Once you start looking at the actual numbers, you find that Canadian tax rates are very much in line with those in the United States, on average. Our economy, trade deficit and federal budgets have been much better for years." |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by b4k-oz
Preylude...seems like only you and I are the only ones that have actually studied the affects.
Sad....Very Sad :sadgreen: when Canadians delude themselves into thinking that having public and private sectors will not allow for queu jumping. I mean come on...it's only common sense that there are many who require rare forms of blood, bone or tissue...(not to mention the black market selling of limbs and organs in Canada) and look on this as an opportunity to bribe preferrential treatment. |
You honesty think that reputable private health care facilities that will still be highly regulated will operate illegally? |
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| starsearcher |
Well just the other day some guy was told he won't be able to get hid medicine cause Ontario will cut the funding for it - it's too expensive for them...that was on city tv...
Now eye exams aren't covered any more...and so many other features are being cut....so not only that our healthcare SUCKS it is also VERY limited...so once again we can continue being in denial that our system is GREAT or face the facts that a change is needed |
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| preylude |
| quote: | Originally posted by b4k-oz
Preylude...seems like only you and I are the only ones that have actually studied the affects. |
Not only have I studied the effects -- I lived in the States for 2 years and had to deal with their system. I think anyone advocating private health care in Canada should be subjected to that punishment.
EDIT: Oh, and I had _good_ health insurance from a large corporation. If you have anything less, you are _completely_ foobarred. |
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| starsearcher |
| quote: | Originally posted by preylude
Not only have I studied the effects -- I lived in the States for 2 years and had to deal with their system. I think anyone advocating private health care in Canada should be subjected to that punishment. |
Once again...no need to look at the States...look at some European countries...look at Israel for god's sakes...incredible health care... |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by preylude
..."[It] is commonly believed that income taxes in Canada are much higher than in the United States. Let's compare 2003 rates:"
"Someone with an income of CDN$30,000 in Canada paid 11.9%, or CDN$3559 federal income tax. Someone in the United States, making USD$30,000 ended up paying USD$4310 federal tax, or about 14.4%."
"An individual making CDN$60,000 paid CDN$10,028 or about 16.7%. The U.S. amount for USD$60,000 is USD$13,810 or about 23%. That is probably shocking to most Canadians. Please note this comparison does not include State or Provincial taxes -- which could add between 0% to 10%, depending on where you live. It also does not factor in tax deductions, which can vary greatly on an individual basis."
"Futhermore, the average Canadian income in $CAD is higher than the average U.S. income in $USD. In 2001, the average family income in Canada was $60,300CAD. In that same year, the US average was $42,228USD (or roughly $57,000CAD at a 1.35 exchange rate). This contradicts another popular myth that the average American makes more money."
"Once you start looking at the actual numbers, you find that Canadian tax rates are very much in line with those in the United States, on average. Our economy, trade deficit and federal budgets have been much better for years." |
What are they doing comparing albera to california?
LOL
I guess they dont take into account that our sales tax is double not to mention the sin taxes, property taxes and gas taxes that are outrageous. |
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| starsearcher |
| Another thing...try suing a public healthcare "professional" in Canada if he es you over...you can't...there's no way in hell you'll win - which is what happened to me personally...but privately you can do anything...not to mention they'll do a better job most likely |
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| preylude |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
What are they doing comparing albera to california? |
As stated, they are both Federal.
| quote: | | I guess they dont take into account that our sales tax is double not to mention the sin taxes, property taxes and gas taxes that are outrageous. |
Give me some numbers and facts, not rhetoric. |
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| b4k-oz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
You honesty think that reputable private health care facilities that will still be highly regulated will operate illegally? |
Duh! Of course they will...of course they will manipulate the words around to justify their needs.
Please don't dellude yourself Jay.. I've seen it done lots of times. |
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| b4k-oz |
| quote: | Originally posted by preylude
Not only have I studied the effects -- I lived in the States for 2 years and had to deal with their system. I think anyone advocating private health care in Canada should be subjected to that punishment.
EDIT: Oh, and I had _good_ health insurance from a large corporation. If you have anything less, you are _completely_ foobarred. |
LOL my family is from the states too.
My friend had a baby and I saw the bill $20,000.00 to deliver a baby thru private insurance plan....WTF :whip: |
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| ShadoWolf |
| quote: | Originally posted by preylude
Give me some numbers and facts, not rhetoric. |
| quote: | Originally posted by preylude
Not only have I studied the effects -- I lived in the States for 2 years and had to deal with their system. I think anyone advocating private health care in Canada should be subjected to that punishment.
EDIT: Oh, and I had _good_ health insurance from a large corporation. If you have anything less, you are _completely_ foobarred. |
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: |
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| preylude |
| quote: | Originally posted by starsearcher
Another thing...try suing a public healthcare "professional" in Canada if he es you over...you can't...there's no way in hell you'll win - which is what happened to me personally...but privately you can do anything...not to mention they'll do a better job most likely |
That's right. Everybody suing everyone else is the answer. That's worked out really well for our American friends too... |
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