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| Michael19 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ghille
ok, i know a guy in dublin that trains. check out mma.tv click on the underground forum, and then theres a subforum that has uk |
yea, thats probaly the SGB gym here.
and yea, expect full sparring. |
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| DjConfessions |
I train BJJ.
When i was about 10, my parents put me into a youth Karate club. While the martial art is pretty useless except for basic standup, it does stress a lot on honor and virtues. Discipline is something that everyone in martial arts must follow, as not to use their techniques for anything mischeivous.
Nowadays, after watching the evolution of mixed martial arts competition, i began studying BJJ through several OLD OLD OLD VHS tapes starring who else, but the Gracies. I have 6 of their tapes (not that i can use them anymore, my dvd player is king now) teaching basic to advanced techniques.
it always surprised me back during UFC I how there was all these badass looking guys with their shirts torn were absolutely MANHANDLED by this 175lb guy in a gi (royce gracie). It just goes to show that in a fight, technique is supreme.
I've been in two mixed martial arts fights(both won) and a few recognitions for submission grappling.
Judo is something i'd REALLY like to get into, however i rarely have the time to even find a dojo. I loved watching Hedihiko Yoshida gain position through uchimada tosses against strikers (Pride FC) |
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| phizzle |
| i went to a place called SDSI (Street Defence Systems Inc) for several years, what I liked about this place is they didnt focus on one style, they focused on the better parts of multiple styles. I broke my foot in 2 spots doing Mau Tai Kick boxing, and havent been back since. I dont know why, Im ALOT more in shape now then i used to be. |
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| DC76 |
| Most MA I've ever done was 2 HS seminars in freestyle kickboxing :p But I'd love to take up Muay Thai or Tae Kwon Do... some other time :haha: I need something to vent my aggro. |
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| Jackson |
| Tai Chi and Ninjitsu (Yes, i am a ninja:p ) |
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| Orbax |
| i practice the time honored arts of punching people in the head until their brain turns off and pinching their jugular and windpipe closed with arm until their brain turns off. They work pretty well. |
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| trancaholic |
i sujest u learn kungfu! kungfu is very hard.:eyes: :eyes: but when u know how to do it really good u can do a lot of things when time is not moving!!!
theres a movie called matrix where the guy has kungfu and he can even stop dieing!! hahaha but it properly take a long time to be so good.
but i dont know the otehr fights the others said so that may be good to!!;) ;) ;) |
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| Gravgon |
| quote: | Originally posted by Emil
Learn Krav Maga. |
+1
two of my friends have done 2 years of krav maga, they're total combat freaks now lol
they weren't confident at all before and now they aren't affraid to fight if it's needed. |
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| astroboy |
| I've studied quite a few martial arts. Muay Thai is very practical and is great for self defence (I'm not sure what you mean by striking not being good for self defence). If you want something that is about more than fighting you should try one of the Chinese martial arts. |
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| WillyWonka |
| quote: | Originally posted by Streakfury
I've dabbled in a few, but the one I stuck at longest (and the one which I still practice when I can) is Tang Soo Do. To be honest though, it doesn't matter what style you do, as long as you've got a good teacher you'll learn well and become good at it.
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Cool...Hey, can you please tell me how to write in yellow or other assorted colors? Haven't figured it out yet! |
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| Alccode |
Welllll.... just saying, "Learn Krav Maga" doesn't help. At all. First of all, what is it? Second of all, what's good about it? Third, why should he learn it just because you said it?
Michael19, I'm going to second Wing Chun. WC is a chinese style that has very little emphasis on forms (only 3 empty-handed forms in the entire art) and instead focusses on technique and "live" drills against opponents and wooden dummies. Then there is Chi Sao (sp?). This is the #1 reason why I'd recommend WC.
The deal with learning a martial art is that if you want to become really efficient, you have to internalize the movements in such a way that subsequent instantiations of what you've learned (like in a fight) have the greatest generalizability and applicability. This is where WC shines. Chi Sao, a.k.a. "Sticky Hands" is an exercise done with a live opponent at close range where you take turns striking, blocking, and evading attacks in fluid motions and with constant hand contact. You do this a lot. What this does is really hammer into your brain the necessary arm/hand/finger movements required to deflect most attacks coming at you.
It's not at all like typical martial arts drills that you do with an opponent. If you see it in action you'll know what I mean. If you can find any, watch videos of decent WC practitioners doing Chi Sao. They do it so fast and, more importantly, effortlessly and correctly, that it is impossible to use your mind and think through those situations. It really helps build up your reflexes. What then happens is that you are capable of dealing with any type of strike that comes at you. This is because as soon as you make contact with the strike, you instinctively enter "Chi Sao" mode and begin manipulating the opponent, trapping him, moving into him, striking, etc. You also tend to end up behind him, where he is most vulnerable.
Anyway, another plus for WC is the "fabled" chain punches of WC. Part of the ideas behind WC is that the shortest distance between 2 points is a straight line. So no BS about round punches or whatever. Just straight punches. But not straight punches like karate. WC punches are vertical, and move in straight, then down in a slightly elliptical motion, to allow the other hand's punch to come out. Although one single punch like this isn't as strong as a corresponding karate punch (since the latter leverages hip motions), it allows you to throw many punches in rapid succession. Getting an opening and throwing five punches like that in 1-2 seconds will do lots of damage. And these aren't really blockable at all, short of running back or away, and in that case you can just follow your opponent.
This is also why other martial arts generally have a hard time dealing with chain punches. Think of Aikido, which is almost entirely defensive in the sense that it requires an offensive action from an opponent in order to deal with him. That's why all aikido techniques begin with a strike from an opponent. But how is an aikido person going to deal with 5-10 really fast punches in a row? You can't just grab the attacker's hand and throw him. :disbelief Anyway I'm not against aikido, it exists for a different purpose altogether.
One problem with striking arts is that they're not expressly designed to deal with grappling opponents. If you think about it, though, a grappler has to be able to grab you before he can do anything (by definition). But with WC, when you develop what one WC teacher calls the "auto-pilot", you will be able to deal with incoming strikes and grabs and generally anything that is vaguely arm-shaped, without problems, redirecting and negating the opponent's actions as you yourself move in and do your job.
In some ways, then, WC has the aikido spirit of moving with your opponent in harmony. That's not to say that this is some hippy wishy-washy fantasy notion, but simply that in a Real Fight (tm), the opponent will almost always be bigger than you, so you won't be able to overpower him with brute force. If you were stronger then they wouldn't have picked on you in the first place, generally. So you need to "go with your opponent" and use his strength against him. Also you don't need to be super strong. This is a deficiency of other martial arts like karate, where you have to be Superman to even begin being proficient. With WC (supposedly designed by a woman), efficiency and effective technique is preferred over strength or speed, since like I said, you're generally the weaker side in a real fight. And when you're old, you can't rely on strength or speed, either. This spirit is manifested in such things as punches, as 5 fast, not-super-strong punches can do as much, if not more, damage than one really strong one. Also keep in mind that fast punches carry a lot of weight simply because they are fast.
Yet another benefit of WC for the "auto-pilot" is the wooden dummy. At the more advanced stages you get to train on a wooden construction that has protrusions that correspond to human arms and legs, and generally human striking points. You've probably seen these things in movies. The benefit of using this is that, again, it really internalizes your technique and helps you develop great reflexes really efficiently. Another huge advantage is that you internalize these motions while actually striking a target using realistic force. So it's not like karate where advanced students can punch really fast, but will break their knuckles if they actually try to hit anything. Using the wooden dummy you can develop a real feel of what punching stuff is like. Just as importantly, you will physically strengthen your hands and striking surfaces so that you can hit humans and not be the side that breaks. :) Then when (and IF) you need to actually hit a person, you will be more effective than a typical martial artist that trains by punching air.
Another advantage of WC over other striking arts is that you coordinate your hands and use them as effectively as possible, and at the same time. That's why you learn from Day 1 to deflect with one hand and strike with the other at the exact same time, unlike in karate (say), where you only get to this stage way later, like at your brown or black belt. Also contrast this with typical martial arts where you block first, then strike. This wastes time; why use only one hand at a time when you have two that can act independently?
Oh and it doesn't take a lifetime to get "good" at WC. It was designed (supposedly) for the average practitioner to become good in 5 or so years. Although this might seem too good to be true, remember that WC has heavy emphasis on really, really effective drills that directly program into your brain the general, and hence most effective, capacity to deal with hostile opponents.
Michael19, I hope this has helped. I know many will disagree, mostly simply just because they themselves are doing a different art. However, try to listen to these things reasonably -- e.g., don't be turned off to art X just because some person on an online forum posted, "X suckz", and that's that. :eyespop: Also, do some independent research, and try out these things! Go to a local class for whatever martial art you're interested in, WC or otherwise, and see what they're like. Ask candid questions.
Above all, pick an art that you can see yourself being determined in. If you just pick what's "in" these days, say BJJ, you might not actually like it and will get bored and quit.
Good luck!
EDIT: minor additions. Oh and sorry if it seems like I'm picking on karate in particular. I really have nothing against it, I just use it as "your typical striking martial art". Also I have trained both in karate and wing chun so I feel like I have some authority to speak on each of their merits and deficiencies. |
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