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Religion (pg. 7)
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| Orbax |
| quote: | Originally posted by NomadaNare
Like i said before, if I was looking for "induction" as you say, I would have included that little tid bit of info in my first post. It's almost as if I would of said, "Surprisingly I wasn't smoking weed but painting while coming up with that theory". Like I said before, I was just telling you what I was doing.
My activity at the time had nothing to do with it, I'd kind of been thinking of it for a long time now. I really forgot what it stemmed from.
just wanted to clear that up. |
Im just interested in your logical approach to the realization that all things in life are synthesized from conflict. Premises, conclusion, etc... |
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| NomadaNare |
Well why do you believe in God, that's always been a curiousity for me. A lot of people ask, "well why dont you ...?" but nobody asks "why do you ...?"
The reason i trust logic is because i trust numbers. They never seem to lie and are cold and factual. In order for me to truly believe in something, it has to have be able to make sense in numbers or quantitative (Sp?) characteristics. For example, I have an exact amount of molecules in my hand that I'm typing with. God shows, no physical, quantitative, real, concrete, characteristics so I question him. So I ask you, why don't u question him? |
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| Aquarian |
| quote: | | Is it more improbable than you evolving from ooze in this one galaxy, of which there are 10^10 (roughly) and in each galaxy there are 10^10 (roughly) stars with solar systems. |
Far more improbable, yes. If you consider the conditions, the probability of life forming and evolving into complex organised beings was rather high. Now, if every single planet had intelligent life on it, then that would have been extremely improbable, and a question of pure coincidence (or god's work?). The problem is that people see evolution as being a series of coincidences and accidents that happened to go exactly the right way, but it's really the only logical progression of things from it's starting point. You have to remember that thousands of billions of lifeforms have died through the process of natural selection and mutation. It's not that life was somehow guided by a divine hand to follow the right path, it's just that everything that didn't follow the right path has died out.
That being said, evolution is based on theories supported by evidence and observation. Religion, on the other hand, does none of those things. That's why religion is said to be an emotive belief, not a logical one. I forgot who exactly said this, but I think it applies here; Science brings up questions and tries to find answers to fit them. Religion brings up answers and tries to find explanations that support it. |
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| kr00t0n |
I think the only thing that really annoys me (apart from people trying to force feed beliefs), is when people 'pick and mix' with religion.
There was this holy roller in highschool who had such a higher than thou attitude, yet she smoked and got pissed pretty much every weekend AND got knocked up at 16.
Isn't sex before marriage a rather big thing in Christianity? :rolleyes: |
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| Subey |
Next time anyone has a chance to talk to their loving god please remember to mention how much I appreciate the fact that gunpowder is less expensive to make than butter.
As for me, the only reasonable relationship that I can see with god is the one expoused by Roy Batty. |
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| newtotrance |
| I understand what you all of saying. Being open minded is accepting others of course. However, I am not merely set in my ways as you think. I go to a Bible College where there is many, many different Christian denominations and you have to be open minded. As for me, I have never really been able to understand the whole evolutionary theory. As for Buddism and Hinduism, they are two different religions. In my above post regarding sacrifices and burning incences, I was merely trying to point out what used to be done in the ancient times. I was not referring to any religion. I was pointing to the fact that in the ancient times many of those gods were false that people were burning the incense for. |
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| Moongoose |
| Oh so what proof do you have that old gods were false gods? |
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| newtotrance |
| many of the ancient peoples were polytheistic and worshipped many different gods. If you look at the tribes in Ethopia and Egypt or even in the Natives cultures. Many of these people worshipped gods of the earth and of the skies. They had a god for a different area. Which seems cool but I am referring to the people worshipping different icons or idols. I mean who wants to bow before a statue. |
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| mezzir |
| quote: | Originally posted by newtotrance
many of the ancient peoples were polytheistic and worshipped many different gods. If you look at the tribes in Ethopia and Egypt or even in the Natives cultures. Many of these people worshipped gods of the earth and of the skies. They had a god for a different area. Which seems cool but I am referring to the people worshipping different icons or idols. I mean who wants to bow before a statue. |
idk, you tell me
while we're on the subject, who wants to bow down before anything?
| quote: | Originally posted by newtotrance
I understand what you all of saying. Being open minded is accepting others of course. However, I am not merely set in my ways as you think. I go to a Bible College where there is many, many different Christian denominations and you have to be open minded. As for me, I have never really been able to understand the whole evolutionary theory. As for Buddism and Hinduism, they are two different religions. In my above post regarding sacrifices and burning incences, I was merely trying to point out what used to be done in the ancient times. I was not referring to any religion. I was pointing to the fact that in the ancient times many of those gods were false that people were burning the incense for. |
I wouldn't necessarily say that being open minded is accepting others. You can accept others even if you radically oppose their views for no reason, but don't confront them about it. When confronted with an argument, an open minded individual would not hold steadfast to their position, but rather learn about the opposing argument, and then make a decision. You believe in God, the holy trinity, etc, and you believe anyone who says otherwise is wrong. that, my friend, is not being open minded |
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| newtotrance |
| When did I say everyone else were wrong? |
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| mezzir |
| quote: | Originally posted by newtotrance
When did I say everyone else were wrong? |
well every post i've seen you make here on TA suggests that you believe your religion to be the 'correct' one, am i right?
its all in the way you phrased things dear...compare:
i believe there is a god.
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there is a god.
which one of those sounds more like you? |
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| M@t |
| quote: | Originally posted by mezzir
its all in the way you phrased things dear...compare:
i believe there is a god.
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there is a god.
which one of those sounds more like you? |
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noone wants to hear you preaching, just your point of view
unless you are tom cruise then you are clearly right |
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