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What does God have against the scouts? (pg. 3)
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| arnoldjch |
| quote: | Originally posted by St_Andrew
Fyi: Im a big sceptic of christianity as well and those are good points you bring out, obviously without any good answer. Christianity is a bunch of bull. |
:p nvm dude. I suppose that you dont belive in a GOd or a higher being? Well getting back to the topic of God, those who dont believe in a creator are pretty much confuse why they are here in earth?because they have little knowledge of our universe and no knowledge about their existance.... well i dont want to get into the topic, religion is undebateble....
JUST BELIEVE IN W.E MAKES YOU HAPPY AND A GOOD PERSON:) |
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| squirrelly |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
Indeed, most of what the church is based on, nowadays, comes from several reviews made by men, and naturally, is bound to reflect prejudices and biases that conflict with the original meaning. Not to mention hardcore followers who stuck to the word radically.
However, once you break it down to a philosophy rather than a religion, you get some really nice material, that wouldn't even clash with science, for example, but would rather become a mirror.
I learned about Christianity more now that I left the church. |
If you're breaking it down to a philosophy rather than a religion, then you aren't looking at Christianity. Because Christianity is a religion, not a philosophy. If you're going to look at it like a philosophy, it ties into many different theories, philosophies, and other religions. The basis isn't very difficult to understand. In fact, it's simplistic.
I don't understand how it wouldn't clash with science. Christianity says that humans are God-made, Science is basing human development through evolution. The bible does NOT agree with evolution. |
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| squirrelly |
| quote: | Originally posted by arnoldjch
:p nvm dude. I suppose that you dont belive in a GOd or a higher being? Well getting back to the topic of God, those who dont believe in a creator are pretty much confuse why they are here in earth?because they have little knowledge of our universe and no knowledge about their existance.... well i dont want to get into the topic, religion is undebateble....
JUST BELIEVE IN W.E MAKES YOU HAPPY AND A GOOD PERSON:) |
Learn how to type, I can't understand this ramble of yours. Are you trying to state that those who don't believe in a higher being are confused as to why they are here on earth? Yes, because those who believe in God somehow know the meaning of life? Absolutely not. I would like some verifiable proof please, of this God you place so much faith into.
Little knowledge about the universe and no knowledge about their existance? Clearly you have never heard of higher education. |
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| josh4 |
| :haha: ahh another classic thread |
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| ::TranceVanDyk:: |
| quote: | Originally posted by St_Andrew
so heinz, if god is loving everyone, why does he let ppl go to hell? :p |
because, god is a just god. how would you like a judge who tells a murderer, "ill let you free because i love you." what kind of judge would that be?? a father punishes his child. not because he wants to, but because he loves that child. |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
because, god is a just god. how would you like a judge who tells a murderer, "ill let you free because i love you." what kind of judge would that be?? a father punishes his child. not because he wants to, but because he loves that child. |
Ok well why would a just god allow people, who are morally just in their actions, to go to hell on the sole provision that they do not believe in his existence? That seems rather unjustly ... and conceited to say the least.
To answer the thread starter's question, perhaps God has a problem with the boyscout's anti-gay policies? |
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| ::TranceVanDyk:: |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
Ok well why would a just god allow people, who are morally just in their actions, to go to hell on the sole provision that they do not believe in his existence? That seems rather unjustly ... and conceited to say the least. |
on what code of morals are they morally just? humans which is chronically faulty or god's which is said to be perfect? u cannot deny the fact that people cheat, steal, lie, murder, etc. despite the fact of the law that's in place forbidding it. everyone is guilty of this. |
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| Renegade |
| quote: | Originally posted by squirrelly
There is no God. Get over it. |
Marry me.
| quote: | Originally posted by Aiwendil
Let's get Lee Burridged! |
Lee Burridge? Sorry Ms Nun's Event Raid, if this guy says yes first then you're out in the cold. Oh Aiwendil, let'sd consumate our love for slightly druggy, deep tech-house beats right here on the cold, cold ground, why not?
SLIGHTLY COLD GROUND? :eyes: :eyes: |
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| Renegade |
| SLIGHTLY COLD GROUND? |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
on what code of morals are they morally just? humans which is chronically faulty or god's which is said to be perfect? u cannot deny the fact that people cheat, steal, lie, murder, etc. despite the fact of the law that's in place forbidding it. everyone is guilty of this. |
Well God is judging everyone on his system of values. So let's assume God let's person A into heaven because he thought the guy was just. Coincidentally person A believes in God. Person B, who has led the same virtuous life as person A, if not more virtuous, gets sent to hell because the only difference between person A and B is that person B doesn't believe in a God ... or the Christian god if you will. Now how exactly is God being just simply because one didn't acknowledge his existence? Isn't that .... selfish? |
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| trancaholic |
| quote: | Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
on what code of morals are they morally just? humans which is chronically faulty or god's which is said to be perfect? u cannot deny the fact that people cheat, steal, lie, murder, etc. despite the fact of the law that's in place forbidding it. everyone is guilty of this. |
Ok, so considering that "everybody is guilty of this", everybody goes to hell then? What's the point of this heaven bull then? Some perverse variation on the gag of waving a lump of meat in front of a hungry dog before throwing it out?
| quote: | Originally posted by arnoldjch
:p nvm dude. I suppose that you dont belive in a GOd or a higher being? Well getting back to the topic of God, those who dont believe in a creator are pretty much confuse why they are here in earth?because they have little knowledge of our universe and no knowledge about their existance.... |
If you take "God wanted it so" as explanation of "why are we here?", then you're simply forgetting to ask "Why did he want it?" |
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| ::TranceVanDyk:: |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
Well God is judging everyone on his system of values. So let's assume God let's person A into heaven because he thought the guy was just. Coincidentally person A believes in God. Person B, who has led the same virtuous life as person A, if not more virtuous, gets sent to hell because the only difference between person A and B is that person B doesn't believe in a God ... or the Christian god if you will. Now how exactly is God being just simply because one didn't acknowledge his existence? Isn't that .... selfish? |
everyone in this world has committed sins or disobedience to god's commandments. the perfect justice system punishes every infraction. yet god has given mercy to those who repent from the disobedience and follow after god. from that, god forgives and forgets, and leads one through the perils of daily life. therefore that person is said to be "saved". a man cannot save himself, no matter how virtuous he is. when finally that man B comes before god, and has all these sins, lying, cheating, stealing, whatever, and never acknowledged god at all, of course god is going to say, "depart from me, i never knew you." whilst man A, gave his life to god. |
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