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Dec 9 - Johan Gielen at Club Heaven (pg. 4)
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| philippe |
| quote: | Originally posted by clubheaven
For her to continue to make false comments and call Heaven dishonest in regards to Johan is absurd; and continues to undermine her place in the scene and not endear her to other promoters, booking agents, or venue owners. |
or fans who don't want to hear about these things... |
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| Clovis86 |
| quote: | Originally posted by clubheaven
Apparently, djskyhigh is an expert authority on all matters that occur in the whole worldwide global clubbing universe. (lol)
As stated by earlier by someone who is far closer to the truth than kristina sky ever is regarding this nite, there was some booking confusion as Johan was switching agencies. His current management have apologized to us for the misunderstanding and we are moving forward with a fantastic nite with Johan on Dec. 9.
Sorry to all TA members for having to put up with this nonsense from individuals that have a personal issue with Heaven. my job as a promoter of the event is to try to bring fun and great music to
people, not sit here and try to talk about stuff all day long. life is too short for all this drama.
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| quote: | Her "fact" that heaven knowingly printed up and passed out flyers for an event that was not taking place is hilarious. it is equivalent to someone saying that Lost Episode knew their Phantom Manor party was cancelled beforehand and still let people buy tickets. i seriously doubt Victor planned to have his big event end as it did. the difference here, is we don't have a bunch of haters creating nonsense threads to accuse and make stuff up about the Lost Episode crew.
Elementradio and Heaven pulled the flyers as soon as we heard about the booking issue, and immediately booked and promoted the Solarstone event for over 2 straight weeks. the only issue arose recently, when Clovis decided to post a roll-call for an event that
had been cancelled. We all know why he did it, and it is a poor reflection on his character, but karma is a funny thing. His actions are dragging down the work of other hard working people like Victor who have to get involved in hijinks created by Clovis, et al. |
You know...had you checked Johan's website when you printed those flyers, you would have seen he was already booked for someplace else. What the does Lost Episode have to do with this?
Oh yeah, nothing...thats right. And hard working Victor is another person banned from your 'house'. I would say this is a poor reflection of your character. As soon as you heard about the booking issue, you decided to pretend those flyers had never been made. Nobody ever got an anouncment from anyone...I was not the only 'issue' since, PEOPLE @ SOLARSTONE were asking WHEN JOHAN GIELEN was coming on. Phantom Manor was cancelled on the NIGHT of because of the SD Fire Marshall shutting the venue down. This was completely beyond their control. You jumped the gun and printed a bunch of fake flyers, misleading hundreds of people and then tried to act like it never happened.
| quote: | | For her to continue to make false comments and call Heaven dishonest in regards to Johan is absurd; and continues to undermine her place in the scene and not endear her to other promoters, booking agents, or venue owners. (and she wonders why she isn't welcome...) |
Shes not welcome at YOUR ing club...Spundae seem to have no problem booking her over and over again, main room and backroom. ETN.fm have no problem giving her a weekly radio show. The only people undermining their place in the scene are idiots who print fake flyers and act like it never happened, cancel DJ's or change line-ups without telling anyone, or throw an official afterparty for the #1 DJ in the world...that no one can get into. You are seriously hilarious. I'm laughing my ass off right now...
| quote: | | For all those that attend and have fun at Heaven, thank you again, we do this for you and appreciate your support. |
Riiiight...keep jacking up the guestlist price man. |
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| Clovis86 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Noree
wow....someones engrish got better :p
/me runs and hides :wtf: |
Dude...you're goin to hell :wtf: :stongue: :stongue:
b1sh! |
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| Electrophile |
TEH CLOVIS vs. CLUB HEAVEN
ATTACK!!!!
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| DaveT |
I can state FOR A FACT that Johan's site has been wrong about gigs. I know of a few times where his site said he was playing at a gig then would pull out to play in another city.
So simply going by his site as knowing where he is gonna play is not always accurate. |
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| Clovis86 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DaveT
I can state FOR A FACT that Johan's site has been wrong about gigs. I know of a few times where his site said he was playing at a gig then would pull out to play in another city.
So simply going by his site as knowing where he is gonna play is not always accurate. |
Thats not really relevant anyway though...since, why would you print flyers before knowing something is locked down? Its like if Spundae printed NYE flyers two weeks ago, but then dropped Markus and MIKE and brought in two other Djs and just made different flyers without telling anyone. Is this the first time Heaven has done this? No. |
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| djskyhigh |
I could EASILY post the details of this whole fiasco but I have chosen not to because we are on public forums (although I have no problem calling out a liar publicly if they have decided to LIE publicly.)
Believe me or not, I really don't care. Anyone who has any doubts or questions re: this can email or speak to me directly and I would be happy to fill them in on anything I may be able to. I have nothing to hide.
End of story on that.
Personalizing your post to me TED, (club heaven, used to be LEON but I guess he couldn't handle the heat anymore) was actually really uncalled for as I have bit my tongue on several situations I could have called you and others out, BY NAME, about, but didn't.
I can almost guarantee that any promoter I have worked with, will tell anyone that asks, that I am a hard worker, dedicated, and reliable. Not to mention I have very solid relationships with many of the DJs, their agents and their record labels.
So your whole ramble about Kristina Sky this and Kristina Sky that, had no validity.
The only promoter PUT OFF by me is Leon, and that is because I REFUSED to let him walk all over me any longer, and I could really care less if he would ever care to book me again because I don't care to play for people like YOU.
Don't get it twisted, I loved and still love the crowd that I developed a relationship with over the past couple of years, but I dont think anyone that knew the situation I was dealing with would have expected me to endure any more of the stress or pain that I was dealing with.
I really think you should just drop it and move along with your Johan show because you really don't want to get me started.
People have the right, and YES, Clovis is one of them, to call out the bull they see in the club scene, because without these poeple than promoters like YOU would get away with more murder than you already do.
Its a checks and balances system:
For an honest promotion company i.e. Spundae, this system is not a problem for them as they deliver the goods, do it with dignity and respect, and so in turn, you very rarely see negative comments about them or their nights and they have a great reputation in part, because of that.
Now, I could see how being one of the crooks, it could be a bit frustrating that people can actually give feedback and call promoters out, because for the crooks, it results in NEGATIVE feedback like Heaven has been getting since mid June. WAA WAA WAA
Bottom line is there's a reason why no one says anything about clubs like Spundae and there is a reason why there are people that DO say things about Heaven. If you really think that people just wanna bash Heaven for NO valid reason, then you are CRAZY. I really think people have better things to do with their time. And I am sure that the people that do complain or say anything are not enjoying their negative experiences, and would much rather have the old semi-working Heaven back,
I have pages more I could write but I'm not going to because it will just fuel more of your BS and lies.
Victor has and never did have, anything to do with this so you are EXTRA LAME just for even mentioning his name (especially for someone who LECTURED me about personal matters on the messageboard just weeks ago)
The only thing that he does have to do with this, is like Clovis mentioned, he was also one of the wrongly BANNED people from Heaven, but we just have to laugh at that one, because Leon has managed to become the first promoter in L.A. in a long time that has developed his own personal blacklist consisting of people who have either helped him or spoken out against him
The Lost Episode incident and the incident with Heaven in discussion have nothing to do with one another and its like comparing apples to pears. But none of this really matters since the public will never know the truth anyway, as you guys go well out of your way to prevent that from happening.
One last suggestion before I sign off this pathetic thread:
If you want the bad reputation to change, then you actually have to DO something about it. You know, like CHANGE things.. listen to your customers feedback, and yes that includes listening to the feedback from those aside from the same 50 comped guests each event, like the actual paying customers and the non industry related clubber.
If you arent listening to your audience, do you really think its just gonna "go away"??
Good luck with that method... I see its working out really well for you.
And Leon should really pick his own battles, if he can't and wants to have a "Heaven Representative" do all the talking for him, for obvious reasons, then sign up for your own account and stop hiding behind his.
And to anyone that wants to preach to me about how I shouldnt open my mouth about these things etc...
I am a human just like you. and I just happen to DJ. BUT, I have opinions, thoughts and feelings too and I should be able to express them just like everyone else is allowed to.
I have no desire to keep signing on to a online dance community every day, see all the lies and BS and just keep quiet about it just because "I'm a DJ", if it means I can't act or be treated like the rest of you. Then its all just fake. |
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| DJFaded |
| What's going on here again??? :nervous: |
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| TSG |
Want some?
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| philippe |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJFaded
What's going on here again??? :nervous: |
I'm not sure, but I think that it might be about a grand total of 3 people who have issues with Club Heaven. Oh well, can't please everyone all the time :) |
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| Shafer8 |
I agree that people have the right to say what ever they want but it is CLEAR that Clovis has it our for anything that Heaven does. This is no surprise. Any time Heaven is mentioned or a post goes up, the next second there it is, a Clovis post. It is like he almost has the TA wired to his cell phone that any time Heaven is mentioned or there is a chance to call they out he does. everyone in here knows that Clovis and Heaven do not get along as we have all read it week in and week out, day in day out, hour in hour out (what ever). happens and it always will much greater than Johan's date getting cancelled.
The reality in a nut shell one LAST time so we are all clear, NONE of this was Heavens fault, NONE. I could actually post emails that went back and forth from Johnas supposed new management with names and all but this would only get my self into trouble. The show WAS supposed to happen and trust me no one felt like spending almost $1000 on desgin and art as well as flyers and poster just to look stupid or try and make more money at the door. That comment is bull!
I think Leon does events more for the swcene than for the money as we all know (if you have actually done events) there really isnt alot of money in it EVEN when you have the big guns come in! Alot of people i know do it because they LOVE the music. I am no expert on anything but I can tell you this, the bitching that goes on in here is seriuosly alot more than people just bitching about things that should be bitched about.
Also if you hate someone that much or really do not like then, THEN go to their ing house, ring the door bell and punch them in the face! Thats what i would do instead of sit here and bitch all day long behind a key board. Be a man and handle on your own and do not drag the entire forum into your battles!
So if any of you hate me after this post or do not like me and want to tell me PM me and leave everyone else out!
This isnt about war it is about unity! |
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| Noree |
philipe.......just because heaven brings good talent doesnt make it automatically a great club! and im sure u dont know anything that Kristina was talkin about.....hell she used to work for them....so i think she knows a bit more then anyone of us all put together.....its not so much we have a problem.....we know the truth!!! u tink eveyrthing that comes out of George bush's mouth is true? then y would u think eveyrhting that comes out of Heavens mouth is true....listen to the other side of the story...in this case, which is Kristina! anywho....
well said Kristina....that is all! |
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