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Why Stephen Harper won't win the election... (pg. 5)
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by naesean3
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Dude, seriously, what are you on about? You missed the point completely. Harper didn't even talk about the gay marriage issue in his speech. THIS LIBERAL DOUCHEBAG WROTE HIS ENTIRE ARTICLE ABOUT SOMETHING HARPER NEVER EVEN MENTIONED.
Can you leave your personal emotions out of this for half a second and look at what's ACTUALLY happening? |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Wyndham
and i do vote for the party, because i really can't remember the last time a federal mp made a difference or changed something in this riding. In federal election, i vote based on federal issues, provincial i vote based on provincial issues, not for what they are going to do in the region. I can't believe you're blind enough to think stronach is doing all this for you and your region, its blatently obvious shes got herself in mind only. |
Many people only vote for the MP they want to represent them....and personally I see no problem with that way of thinking. Myself, I will vote for the party who I feel will better serve my needs as a middle to upper middle class white male. |
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| Wyndham |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
Many people only vote for the MP they want to represent them....and personally I see no problem with that way of thinking. Myself, I will vote for the party who I feel will better serve my needs as a middle to upper middle class white male. |
yea vote like that if u want, though theres not much point really since federal mps dont do anything for their community...but when he can't back it up with any reason whatsoever for picking her, then theres a problem. |
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| Abercrombie |
MP's won't do anything for the people in the region unless you write to them, talk to them. They'll do didly squat for whatever you write about in this forum or any other for that matter.
The fact IS, they represent US, our region, first and foremost. Otherwise, what's the whole point of voting for MPs? Screw all the regional elections, and just have ballots that say, Conservative, Liberal, Marijuana, Communist, Marxist-Leninist, Green, Rhinoceros, whatever. So, voting for a party is your and everyone's prerogative, but in the end, the fact is, you vote for the person first. Show me anywhere on a ballot that says otherwise.
Seriously, you can write to MPs without a postage stamp, it's free. The more letters they receive about their constituents' concerns, the more they'll listen. If an MP gets a letter on an issue from only one person, yes, it will gather dust, but if they get many letters on the same issue, it'll be on the front burner. YOU are the ears and voices of their community.
So this coming election, I encourage everyone to vote. I don't care who you vote for, just vote. It is our priveledge. And if you don't vote, you shouldn't complain. If you don't care to vote, you don't care who represents you. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Abercrombie
So this coming election, I encourage everyone to vote. I don't care who you vote for, just vote. It is our priveledge. And if you don't vote, you shouldn't complain. If you don't care to vote, you don't care who represents you. |
I do agree with you...that we should all vote...however...only vote is you are actually going to make an educated vote...don't vote if you are not going to educate yourself on the platforms of at least the main parties. Not voting is bad but uneducated voting is worse |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
Not voting is bad but uneducated voting is worse |
Well, at least we agree on one thing. :p |
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| Abercrombie |
| Amen. Cuz All I hear from everyone is why I shouldn't vote for who I want to, rather than why I should vote who I 'should' vote for. Most people I spoke with in Aurora/Newmarket can't even name who's running for the Conservatives here without googling it. It's always anti-Liberal I hear, but no one ever sucessfully has been pro-Conservative.... these are two different things, even though they appear to be the same. |
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| Euphorica |
Howmany think the proposed tax cut will effect the running?
I dont think it will much . Most of the people on the news said they didnt really care, now obviously they couldve left out the ones who said they did, I dont know. but 2% imo...big whoop. |
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| cyper |
It doesnt matter who is elected.. cause we are already screwed.
Why do all politicians keep promising better things for the people of canada & our economy, yet when elected... NOTHING changes! Our economy is just a big piece of thats travelling very quickly @ a 747 turbine engine. We just like to believe our politicians and the media that keep saying "everything is getting better", while factories keep closing up(or moving to china) & people keep losing their jobs.
North America is heading towards a massive economic disaster.
But people rather hear good lies, then accept unpleasent truth.
Also there is evidence to suggest that voting is a fraud. That all major people in power have been "selected" rather then "elected". Just to give sheep(the ignorant masses) the illusion that we have a choice & live in a country of freedom. But lets not get into that.
Have a nice day. |
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| VERTiG0 |
Everytime I skim by this thread I see "Stephen Hawking."
That is all. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Dude, seriously, what are you on about? You missed the point completely. Harper didn't even talk about the gay marriage issue in his speech. THIS LIBERAL DOUCHEBAG WROTE HIS ENTIRE ARTICLE ABOUT SOMETHING HARPER NEVER EVEN MENTIONED.
Can you leave your personal emotions out of this for half a second and look at what's ACTUALLY happening? |
True, he did not mention it in the speach but he was asked a question about it afterwards which was the basis for all the discussion that ensued. Mr. Harper is going to be pleagued by journalists asking about his "secret agenda" for the next 6 weeks because that is the story that's going to sell papers in the large urban markets the national press cares about, moreover, it is what the electorate really wants to know about (assuming it exists, which a great number do believe). He really has to learn how to better handle these questions or avoid them if he is to have any measure of success. One of his handlers (I hate that term) tried to deflect the question but Mr. Harper returned to it.... he shouldn't have, this was a critical mistake on his part.
I think the real problem here is that Harper is very good at developing policy (he's a thinker) but very poor at communicating that policy to the electorate and even worse at understanding what will and will not play with voters. His problem is more of a stylistic one then a lack of merit. Unfortunately for Mr. Harper, if you cannot deliver your intended message to the audience then they will never receive that message and will not recognize any merit that it may have. In short, he's a good theorist but a weak politition Since the general public doesn't have the ability to understand the theories on their own they need a politition to deliver them in a manner they can make sense of..... sadly Mr. Harper cannot do that. |
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| MarkT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard ...One of his handlers (I hate that term) tried to deflect the question but Mr. Harper returned to it.... he shouldn't have, this was a critical mistake on his part.
I think the real problem here is that Harper is very good at developing policy (he's a thinker) but very poor at communicating that policy to the electorate and even worse at understanding what will and will not play with voters. ... |
exactly why I started this thread.
he's not an idiot...he's not a "bad person"...he's just not a politician and I don't think he'd make a good PM. He doesn't "get it" and while those who do "get it" often take advantage of the situation, IMHO you have to at least "get it" to be able to do the job. He seems so out of touch with how to play the game...and it IS a game to reach that position.
btw...anyone notice that the lunatic Carolyn Parrish isn't running again? YAY! lol |
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