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A State Of Trance Yearmix 2005 (pg. 7)
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| Stanza |
| quote: | Originally posted by MiikkaLeinonen
2005 anyone?
What comes to the yearmix, i think its just plain stupidity to mix ~80 tracks in 2 hours; its like a gangbang where the bitch takes all the credit just by lying there while everyone else is doing the hard work. |
Lol, great analogy there. |
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| RebeL9 |
| quote: | Originally posted by stefanoc
for all the people who have the problem with armin making money out of this: why do you care? are you jealous because youre not making the money? or are you just amazed that people are so dumb spending the money on something this 'stupid'. if so, then get used to it, not everyone has the same taste, thats not only the case in music though.
why do you even frickin care about armada making money out of this? its business, and thats none of your business. dont judge the music financially.
i personally have to say that i enjoyed CD2 more than CD1 as transitions overall were better. BUT last years yearmix was better than this years IMO.
and no, you cannot compare armin with starbucks. the only reason you would do that is because you hate armin. i im not against this comparison because i like armin, but its just a wrong comparison.
i dont want to answer why, because i dont feel typing all that long. but why dont you try to answer yourself of why you are comparing him with starbucks and see if your arguments really define your comparison. |
many of the people who critisize Armin listened to him befor you even knew what trance was. so don't come with your "you hate Armin" talk. there have been numerous threads were good constructive critisizm have been written about Armin and the downfall the last years. you can't just call all that blind hatred for Armin. |
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| stefanoc |
ok.. if i said comparing armin with starbucks is totally wrong, then my bad. but u are saying that a trance elite (comparing it with the brazilian coffee fanatic) looking at starbucks (armin in this case) and thinks its ! prove it! all you said is your opinion, and you are considering yourself the guy who knows everything about this music. i dont want to narrate a story for you, so ill leave it off like this.
RebeL9:
many of the people who critisize Armin listened to him befor you even knew what trance was. so don't come with your "you hate Armin" talk.
if that sentence wasnt there, then i agree with you. i didnt say anything about how good armin is, you are just assuming. although i did say that hes not as bad as some other guys mentioned. i havent followed his career so i dont know if he got worst or not and i dont care. if u want to make a strong argument dont offend me, offend my opinion and give reasons. i wonder how long have u listened the music urself.
ill be honest and say that i enjoyed CD2 more than CD1. but there are a few bad mixes i noticed when i was skimming through CD2. could the #3 dj do better than that? sure. overall, yearmix 2005 is great for asot fans and some others, where lots of tracks of 05 are jammed with each other creating a good flow. plus, its great to have cds like this to save so later on in years you can listen to the yearmix and live the past. there are lots of great 05 tracks that are missing but to some people the tracklist is good enough. |
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| Wyndham |
| quote: | Originally posted by stefanoc
but there are a few bad mixes i noticed when i was skimming through CD2. could the #3 dj do better than that? sure. overall, yearmix 2005 is great for asot fans and some others, where lots of tracks of 05 are jammed with each other creating a good flow. plus, its great to have cds like this to save so later on in years you can listen to the yearmix and live the past. there are lots of great 05 tracks that are missing but to some people the tracklist is good enough. |
ahhh u have a lot to learn asot boy
first off i dont hate armin, i used to like him a lot actually....
- armin didn't mix this, abelton did most of the work for him. He picked the songs, and left a load of good ones out. Some djs actually can mix this fast, armin cannot.
- good flow? i can't see how 1.5min songs actually "flow" into the next, espically in trance... as u said... "jammed with each other" to you this implies good flow? lol
- i dont see any reason why u can't listen to any real set to "live the past"
- I dont think anyone really cares that he makes money off this,which he probably doesn't. Besides, one of armada's main jobs is making money of commercial pop trance, its nothing new to bitch about.
- This cd is a marketing tool, armin wants to be #1 and hes eventually gonna get it based on marketing..since thats all the djmag poll is, a popularity contest. Are you naive enough to think tiesto is the best dj in the world?? i hope not.
- by any standard to hold a dj/set/mix to, this is FARRR from good, its a snapshot of what armin played this year and nothing more..dont confuse yourself.
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If you're a connoisseur of fine coffee, Starbucks just isn't going to cut it for you, you want something with it's own unique flavor and effect. ASOT and Armin are the Starbucks of EDM, particularly Trance music, and this is their holiday gift pack sampler that has a little of everything in it, but no real substance what so ever. |
this is a perfect analogy, and i dont see anything that implies he hates armin. nor do i see why he should "prove it" when its pretty straightforward, easy to understand and most people would agree. maybe you should tell us why this is a BAD analogy? since all you've really said is only people who hate armin would agree, which is a pretty arguement, lets hear what u really have to say......
keep listening to asot, one day u'll see the light. |
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| Pinokio |
I Got to listen to the CD, and to be honest I think it's nothing special.
but that doesnĄt mean that armin it's not a good DJ, maybe it's just a marketing cd as some of you said, but that doesn't represent waht armin is.
I listened to the ASOT 200, that was a megamix, but it was different everything had flow, and mixes were "so Harmonic".
the Asot Yearmix could have been harmonic mixing, but it has no feelign at all, so that means to create a good mix, it's not just to play harmonic mixing.
Armin doesn't play my favorite music, but he is one of the best DJ's wheter he plays commercial stuff or not, almost everytime he plays eveyrthing have a great flow, and it's very energectic.
I think some people seem to hate DJ's when they get famous, maybe this is beacuse your own favorite Dj's don't get the recognition they deserve, and everything is centered on the top 10 spot.
The DJ's on the top 10 list are not bad at all, sure there are another DJ's that are very good and at the same level.
I like the famous DJ's and Unknown Dj's,
I just don't stop listening to someone beacuse it gets famous, I just listen to what I Like.
Armin is an awesome DJ. |
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| stefanoc |
ok. i know he uses ableton, but he still has to decide cues. he cut the songs to the parts where he thought he could mix well with others. u know what else he did. i can even do it, but it does take some time. and theres no way a dj can mix this fast live, if thats what you meant.
im sure u enjoy the music getting built up in a matter of minutes. i understand that, i do so as well. i dont know if jamming is something bad or good, so forget that word. basically, some songs flow well with each other. combining 2 songs together somehow (maybe for a long time, or maybe quick transition) will sound entertaining. but u cant party to it. maybe u dont find it entertaining cause u enjoy listening to the music to the fullest, or maybe u dont like his style in music, or just dont like the transitions. so the good flow means songs with similar beats and noises that are attached to each other smoothly.
if armada is trying to make the money, let them. if u dont like the idea of making money in that way, then u wouldnt do it. its still business though, everyone has to make money somehow. we cant talk about this case.
yea i know its a marketing tool, and a good one (if we are talking financially now). alot of asot listeners would probably buy this, hes taking the risk to see if it will work. so that means its a good marketing tool. we cant talk about this either.
i think tiesto is ok, hes once good then bad. i enjoy some of his tracks. but my opinion doesnt have to do anything with his rank. i think atb is a great artist but a BAD dj, and hes ranked 9 or something.
this is supposed to be a snapshot of what he played in asot during the year. nothing more.
ill listen to whatever i will enjoy, nomatter who it is. if its armin for now, let it be.
| quote: | Originally posted by Wyndham
ahhh u have a lot to learn asot boy
first off i dont hate armin, i used to like him a lot actually....
- armin didn't mix this, abelton did most of the work for him. He picked the songs, and left a load of good ones out. Some djs actually can mix this fast, armin cannot.
- good flow? i can't see how 1.5min songs actually "flow" into the next, espically in trance... as u said... "jammed with each other" to you this implies good flow? lol
- i dont see any reason why u can't listen to any real set to "live the past"
- I dont think anyone really cares that he makes money off this,which he probably doesn't. Besides, one of armada's main jobs is making money of commercial pop trance, its nothing new to bitch about.
- This cd is a marketing tool, armin wants to be #1 and hes eventually gonna get it based on marketing..since thats all the djmag poll is, a popularity contest. Are you naive enough to think tiesto is the best dj in the world?? i hope not.
- by any standard to hold a dj/set/mix to, this is FARRR from good, its a snapshot of what armin played this year and nothing more..dont confuse yourself.
this is a perfect analogy, and i dont see anything that implies he hates armin. nor do i see why he should "prove it" when its pretty straightforward, easy to understand and most people would agree. maybe you should tell us why this is a BAD analogy? since all you've really said is only people who hate armin would agree, which is a pretty arguement, lets hear what u really have to say......
keep listening to asot, one day u'll see the light. |
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| ChoBo |
| honestly speaking I think the CD itself serves as more of an 'update' (for those who are new to trance, missed out a lot of shows, etc) or an insight of ASOT for 2005 rather than looking at Armin's skills, ableton usage or whatsoever. It's just a huge megamix of tracks (good and not good)just to highlight ASOT 2005 which is why it's called a yearmix. It's just a good CD to keep and look back in a couple of years time. |
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| DOOMBOT |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RJT
Brilliant. Your logic has convinced me that my argument was truly flawed and that there is no way you could possibly compare Armin van Buuren to Starbucks coffee... Well done, you sir, are both a scholar and a gentleman...
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You are still throwing your meaningless hate around in this thread? Don't buy the stupid cd you jackass. Problem solved! :rolleyes: |
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| Wyndham |
| quote: | Originally posted by DOOMBOT
You are still throwing your meaningless hate around in this thread? Don't buy the stupid cd you jackass. Problem solved! :rolleyes: |
rjt is right non the less.
| quote: | Originally posted by stefanoc
i dont want to answer why, because i dont feel typing all that long. but why dont you try to answer yourself of why you are comparing him with starbucks and see if your arguments really define your comparison. |
^^what kind of a stupid post is that, i dont think this guy speaks english all that well but it deserves the response it got. |
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| Wyndham |
| quote: | Originally posted by stefanoc
ok. i know he uses ableton, but he still has to decide cues. he cut the songs to the parts where he thought he could mix well with others. u know what else he did. i can even do it, but it does take some time. and theres no way a dj can mix this fast live, if thats what you meant.
yea i know its a marketing tool, and a good one (if we are talking financially now). alot of asot listeners would probably buy this, hes taking the risk to see if it will work. so that means its a good marketing tool. we cant talk about this either.
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ahhhh i can't be bothered to respond in full to your broken english post, you more or less just babble....but yes many djs can mix this fast live, some have built their name/careers on it. and deciding cues? i didn't say it didn't take time to do, i said its not hard to do with a very basic knowledge of the prog.
Its a marketing tool and no we are not talking financially..explain how its a good financial tool? when its only being sold in holland? he didn't make it for the money. i dont kno what risks he took? and how does taking a risk make it a good financial marketing tool anyway? lofl....he could toss out any garbage and all the asot worshipers would listen/dl/buy it...we can't talk about this either? your posts dont really make much sense, they're just funny to respond too |
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| Rockabye |
| Ah good to see that you still discuss about this CD... |
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| Eagle` |
| I think RJT should make out with ctprincess |
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