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Key Mixing? (pg. 8)
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| Nyquist_Theorem |
| quote: | Originally posted by Philby
yeah we had beta here hehe i can still remember in movieland they had a section for vhs and for beta :D
i was quoting snake from the simpsons by the way... |
sorry man, i don't watch tv. :D |
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| Dean Millson |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nyquist_Theorem
did you guys have beta here? |
I still have a Beta machine at home. My mother continually threatens to throw it out however i'm not having any of it :) |
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| 00soups00 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dean Millson
I still have a Beta machine at home. My mother continually threatens to throw it out however i'm not having any of it :) |
you live with your mum?? :rolleyes: |
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| DaveBegic |
| LOL. Soups.. you've surpassed all expectations for knobhead poster.. I've trained you well, good call man =) |
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| Teflon_Teapot |
| cool matt thanks for clearing that up. i agree with you about the whole learning curve as well. i think that everyone that dj's whether they are just beginning or one of the best in the world is constantly learning from others, trying to get better or experimenting with new things. that is why so many new styles evolve because people dont sit back when they believe they have reached the peak but continue to push the boundaries. |
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| greedy myles |
| quote: | Originally posted by 00soups00
90% of the crowd wont know what the fcuk keymixing is, |
well said! as a punter, if the set sounds good, then great but if it's i'm not going to go, Damn, that DJ should've mixed key!
| quote: | Originally posted by Teknoscaper.
15 bombs in a set = Boring |
Fixed IMO
And as for Top jocks keymixing? That's very debatable, having watched quite a few live set videos of late, and watch the likes of Carl Cox, whose rekkids were all keyed, and labelled accordingly with colourd stickers, drop track after track "out of key" yet, not one of the several thousand punters in front of him gave a flying fvck.
Or Jesper Dahlbäck and DJ sneak doing precisely the same, another fine example of how key mixing is great, but not essential for a fvckin rocking set.
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| Nyquist_Theorem |
| quote: | Originally posted by greedy myles
And as for Top jocks keymixing? That's very debatable, having watched quite a few live set videos of late, and watch the likes of Carl Cox, whose rekkids were all keyed, and labelled accordingly with colourd stickers, drop track after track "out of key" yet, not one of the several thousand punters in front of him gave a flying fvck.
Or Jesper Dahlbäck and DJ sneak doing precisely the same, another fine example of how key mixing is great, but not essential for a fvckin rocking set.
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wicked, man, that's mine and paul's point exactly. keymixing isn't mixing records that have the same tonic one after another after another. its knowing the melodic relationship between your tracks and considering that along with the other 5-25 factors that determine what tracks should be played when - even if you only consider that when you mix occasionally. which, as you point out, a significant percentage of major internationals seem to think important.
Imagine being a DJ that didn't understand english. you could DJ, you could probably DJ well and get lots of gigs, but you'd be missing that extra ability to convey emotion that you gain by knowing what each song with vocals is saying and using those messages in your set, like Scott does by starting his set with Tilt's "New Day" for example - the start of a mix CD by a well-known trance DJ who's not released a CD for a while, you put it on and you sit down and you say 'ok, scotty, showmewhatchoogot!!!' and ooer, nice, the first thing scotty's telling us is that a new day has come. Hammer, meet head of nail. BANG. :D
Similarly, when you understand harmonic relationships, you have the capacity to use them. Like Coxy dropping house acapellas in key over banging techno tracks within seconds of deciding to do so - it isn't the foundation on which a set is built, but rather a tool used to take your set to that next level.
Is the defence to the knowing english argument 'no one wants to hear an entire story across a set'? Of course not, since no one's advocating that. We'd all agree that even one or two good songs with words (somebody ed my washing machine!) at the right time can make a world of difference in a way no instrumental can. So it is with melodies. The right melodic mix, at the right time, can make a world of difference and crank the vibe up a notch. And personally, I'd kinda like to remind myself of the ways in which my records will work together harmonically as soon as I look at their sleeves. :) |
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| tathi |
| hopefully someones got a microphone at Obsession so you can MC. Richard Attenborough stylz when mr batemans playing a set :p |
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| kelsta |
| quote: | Originally posted by tathi
hopefully someones got a microphone at Obsession so you can MC. Richard Attenborough stylz when mr batemans playing a set :p |
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| Nyquist_Theorem |
| quote: | Originally posted by tathi
hopefully someones got a microphone at Obsession so you can MC. Richard Attenborough stylz when mr batemans playing a set :p |
I am a retard. Part one of a three part miniseries. :crazy: |
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| tachyon |
oh, come on matt, it was pretty funny. :p
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| Anomyst |
Does the MC need to key his ranting? does he put funny coloured lables on his lips?
Nyquist.... calm down man! its just music. :) |
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