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Do/did amateur producers ruin trance (pg. 4)
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| RickyM |
| quote: | Originally posted by The Drow
haha I was going to comment that I post a lot of negative stuff.
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| RickyM |
| quote: | Originally posted by The Drow
haha I was going to comment that I post a lot of negative stuff.
I loled:D |
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| Dublin Guy |
| take a look at john o callaghan,he was an amateur trance producer & still is but hes tracks are getting signed and played by pvd etc,gatecrasher took him on tour to oz last yr so it shows that it can be done with some determination,joc is 10 times the dj/producer than that jon o bir lad |
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| Radagast |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
lol, the "you killed trance" bul is SOOOOO LAST YEAR... like omg |
ESPECIALLY you, Foil.
Techno's all good these days. Electro's goin' strong. House is Housin' it up like always. Hardcore is...whatever. And really, Trance is the same way it has been since 1999. You're just looking for tangible excuses to explain why you're getting bored of it.
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| Mike_Foyle |
| quote: | Originally posted by Radagast
ESPECIALLY you, Foil.
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especially me what? |
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| [MaRt] |
There's not only something fundamentally wrong with the way trance is produced these days, it has a lot to do with the people who are listening to it as well. The lack of any imagination or new ideas seems to go completely unnoticed by the masses, and subsequently the genre has hit a brick wall which I'm not sure it can climb. As long as there are zombies happy to listen to the same sounds and concepts recycled over and over, nothing will change.
Where did the energy go? There just aren't any risk taskers anywhere amongst the amateur producers, established producers, record labels and even the listeners. Like dirty water the whole thing's stagnated.
As an amateur producer myself I got bored of trying to make the 'perfect' trance track that would be both unique and widely popular. Indeed, my only vinyl release didn't make it past the promo stage, and my original version was universally shunned in favour of a limp, generic remix. (The length of the breakdown might have something to do with it, though.) |
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| RickyM |
| quote: | Originally posted by [MaRt]
There's not only something fundamentally wrong with the way trance is produced these days, it has a lot to do with the people who are listening to it as well. The lack of any imagination or new ideas seems to go completely unnoticed by the masses, and subsequently the genre has hit a brick wall which I'm not sure it can climb. As long as there are zombies happy to listen to the same sounds and concepts recycled over and over, nothing will change.
Where did the energy go? There just aren't any risk taskers anywhere amongst the amateur producers, established producers, record labels and even the listeners. Like dirty water the whole thing's stagnated.
As an amateur producer myself I got bored of trying to make the 'perfect' trance track that would be both unique and widely popular. Indeed, my only vinyl release didn't make it past the promo stage, and my original version was universally shunned in favour of a limp, generic remix. (The length of the breakdown might have something to do with it, though.) |
Out of interest what track was that? |
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| Mr.Mystery |
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| _Ocean_Drive_ |
First off I'd like to say that this is one of the most interesting threads I've read on TA for a long time, and all the responses have been great reading, so thanks for that.
I think that Trance today is not of the same quality it was, simply because people do not demand it. If DATA, MoS or AATW produce something in 2 seconds and it sells, they're simply going to produce more because it does sell. At the end of the day, the vast majority of the EDM scene boils down to marketing. Flip'n'Fill and DJ Sammy, Special D etc sell so well because they are well marketed, are easily accesible and get the airplay on radio they don't deserve.
The problem I think lies in the fact that none of the decent labels from the underground (relative to the commercial cheese) get the advertising they deserve. '99 was different because it was new to a wider audience, but I believe there has been complacency from both artists and labels. When MoS stopped Trance Nation etc, artists should have realised this indicated a shift in preference, and invested their money in advertising and promotion. Not many labels have the clout that the now mainly-cheese labels do.
I don't think there's anything wrong with people being able to have a go, but I'm sorry to say that if it's marketable to a teen-bopper, then they're going to want to sell it. I think the point about that people having previous musical experience back then is a good one, but I some people can be musical on a trance-level, but not on a classical level.
It's always nice once in a while to see something like 'Beyond Euphoria' (DT8) come from the MoS, because it shows that they still can produce a good compilation, but trance is also simply too diverse now. People can hear tracks and recognise a distinct '99' sound, but that's just impossible now, whereas all the cheese today has a common sound that people easily identify to, and it's catchy.
Bottom line, nothing wrong with amateurs having a go on software, but the good tracks need to have at least the marketing appeal behind them. |
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| placebo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
i think that production software is too user friendly. you dont need to understand it to make a track, its just that you need to understand it to make a good track. these days there are so many lables (trance specifically) competing to get new tracks, that their standards are dropping significantly. if all labels were fussy then they would all go bust, because there is simply too much competition.
its kinda like this... u know when u go to those parties that are just pure cockfests, full of blokes... whenever the odd girl comes along all the guys are like "OMG " and no matter how mingin she is, she will still pull!... see what im saying? |
best analogy ever |
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| Mike_Foyle |
| quote: | Originally posted by placebo
best analogy ever |
hehe :D |
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| _Ocean_Drive_ |
| Should this not be in Music Discussion rather than teh c0re? |
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