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The Super Bowl! (pg. 12)
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| OurManFlint |
| Also, this superbown will always have a * next to it, maybe not in the books, but in the conscience of so many people across the nation. Seattle fans kind of feel good about this game, because we know we didn't loose. |
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| tribu |
| quote: | Originally posted by OurManFlint
Seattle fans kind of feel good about this game, because we know we didn't loose. |
Except that you did.
Congrats on making your first super bowl though. I wish Alexander would have had a bigger game |
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| OurManFlint |
| quote: | Originally posted by tribu
Final Rushing Stats:
Seattle - 137
Pittsburgh - 181
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uhhh...
Ofcourse Steelers will have more "rush" yards, considering they ran the ball more than the seahaks by 8.
Total "net" yards
Seattle-396
Pittsburgh-339
Get you info straight before posting rush yards.... |
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| Spartan |
Jackson's "push" in the endzone was a ridiculous call, I'll agree.
Locklear however, def. had his arm hooked when he made that block which qualifies as holding. The call was close, but not biased.
The media and fans always blow these things out of proportion.
One bad call is not the reason Seattle choked. |
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| tribu |
| quote: | Originally posted by OurManFlint
uhhh...
Ofcourse Steelers will have more "rush" yards, considering they ran the ball more than the seahaks by 8.
Total "net" yards
Seattle-396
Pittsburgh-339
Get you info straight before posting rush yards.... |
Maybe you should get your info straight. Nou clearly stated that Seattle had both more rushing and passing yards than PIT and he was wrong. Nice try to save face though.
EDIT: Oh yeah, I forgot more attempts always equals more yards...A+ logic there.
Like I said, the hawks played well, but Stevans needs to catch some balls, and their D needed to play at championship level. They did not. |
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| igottaknow |
| quote: | Originally posted by OurManFlint
Also, this superbown will always have a * next to it, maybe not in the books, but in the conscience of so many people across the nation. Seattle fans kind of feel good about this game, because we know we didn't loose. |
fortunately your team won't be remembered. the thing that might be remember is your couch who was a sore loser not shaking cowhers hand. imhop there's not much to 'feel good about'. |
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| tribu |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nou
Yea, and we would have won if not for the ty calls that were obviously biased because the Steelers had way worse D than Seattle did.
Not to mention that their offensive line was raped the first half, and only got lucky on that catch at the end that got them in the red-zone, and that touchdown that didn't break the plain AT ALL, there was no forward progression, nothing, the ball could be seen tucked into his stomach and his shoulders barely got across the line, in the air and on the ground.
This game was anti-west propaganda. |
At most, you would have managed a tie. If (and thats a big if) you give Seattle all those calls, you're likely giving them 11 points (One touchdown on the hold , plus the initial field goal turning into a TD: PI in the endzone. Of course arms extended never means PI, right?)
It wasn't all luck on thatcrap thrown to Ward on Third and Alot. It was a collapse by the Seahawks defense. Thats exactly the sort of play you cant let happen if you want to win championships, and they basically sat there and let the receiver catch the ball. The touchdown is vague, and no one can be sure if it hit the plane or not. The Steelers sort of got the benefit on that call, but thats the name of the game. The bal was never in his stomach, as the still from earlier in this thread will show.
As a Browns fan, I hate the Steelers, but they played better than Seattle last night. Neither team was really that good.
| quote: | Originally posted by igottaknow
fortunately your team won't be remembered. the thing that might be remember is your couch who was a sore loser not shaking cowhers hand. imhop there's not much to 'feel good about'. |
Exactly. ty move by Holmgren, regardless of how he felt about the officiating. |
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| OurManFlint |
| quote: | Originally posted by igottaknow
fortunately your team won't be remembered. |
Thank you so much for ponting that out, because this was the plan even before the game started. There was no way an unknown team was going to beat the great American Steeler's team...
But thanks again for pointing out the pre-game consensus. |
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| tribu |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nou
You can see in the replays the ball is in his stomach and as he came forward and was brought down he had it up to his chest trying to reach it across. It never broke the plain. He was down by the time the ball was at his chest, and you could even see in a freaking LIVE shot him reaching out after the call, the ball from under his chest and placing it into the endzone. The line judge was even hesitating before making the call.... |
I saw the Side Judge hesitate before making the call,and I have no doubt that he made the call after seeing the ball across the line after he was down. However, he doesn't have to be down when the ball crosses. Just before the part you mention, he jumps into the air where he was met by (i think) the linebacker. This is where I think the ball hits the front of the line.
| quote: | | Originally posted by Nou OK now say that they had not gotten that. That at the end of the game would have put them at a score of 14. |
That puts them at a minimum 17. A stop there would have brought on 4th down, and hypothetically, lets say they make the field goal.
| quote: | Originally posted by Nou
Now say the Seahawks had gotten the touchdown that they deserved but there was that totally bull (the whole call is bull, it shouldn't even be allowed to be called) offensive interference. That would have put the total score for the Seahawks at 17. |
I can't agree the call was bull. The arms were extended when he pushed off and in ref school, thats the first thing they teach you to look for. However, let's say the touchdown counts. First, you have to take away the field goal they got instead, then you add the touchdown. That puts the total score at 14, not 17. They don't get both scores :p.
| quote: | | Originally posted by Nou They could have easily tacked on at least three if that holding call wasn't made in the 4th. |
If they only tack on three, it's a tie. They would have needed a touchdown for the win. Considering they went 1 for 3 in the redzone, this is debatably likely.
| quote: | Originally posted by Nou
In the end, every call went the way of the Steelers, and some were obviously biased. Result: Seahawks lose. |
There were penalties against the Steelers too...4 if i remember right. Yes, there were some bull calls, but I stand by the idea that the Seahawks defensive collapse, not the refs, were the cause for this loss. |
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| tribu |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nou
If they had a tie then they could have won.
There was no possible way for them to win this game.
Steelers came out playing like , there first touchdown is questionable at best, their second was the only one that was a legitimate failure of defense and their gadget play was very good, not a failure of defense, but a good play.
The Seahawks ed up a bit, but the bad calls only made it harder for them, its a bitch to play a football game where you are afraid every play is going to throw you back five or ten yards.
This game was fixed, intentional or not. I will not continue to listen to your arguments as you have proven on many occasions not only to be biased against the Seahawks, but against the PNW and it is very much shown through here. |
I just said I wanted to move there like an hour ago lol.
If they had a tie, they could have lost as well as won.
And seattle ed up alot :p The run was big, as was the pass to Ward leading to the first touchdown. |
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| igottaknow |
| quote: | Originally posted by OurManFlint
Thank you so much for ponting that out, because this was the plan even before the game started. There was no way an unknown team was going to beat the great American Steeler's team...
But thanks again for pointing out the pre-game consensus. |
don't forget the man behind the grassy knoll... :rolleyes: |
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| OurManFlint |
Ya but you can't really say "oh they would have gotten this TD, but they would have lost or tied," or any of that. The first seahawk TD that was called back would have changed the whole order of the game. The call back against the Seahaks would have drasticaly changed the game, not just the score, but where the game would go from there.
Games don't have a predestined amount of points to be scored. Any difference in the game would have an effect on the game as a whole. Had the Seahawks scored that first TD, or the phantom holding wasn't called, you would have seen a different game being played. I'm not saying the Seahawks would have won, becuase that would be biased, all I am saying is a different game would have been played. A "football" game would have been played, but the refs didn't allow that to happen. |
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