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Xone or DJM ??? (pg. 3)
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| DJ 00 Tommy |
Iv only heard one person say that they actualy disliked the xone mixers.
This was because it had 4 eqs and was over complicated ha!
Tells you something about that persons mixing.... |
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| Nemesis44 |
| quote: | Originally posted by diego992
I'm a relative newb to Djing and have been saving for a set up,
I really want to start my set up with quality gear so I know i'm not going to have to dish out more money down the road to upgrade.
Well I'm debating in either the new DJM 800, or a DJM 600 or a Xone 62 or 92.
I really would appreciate what you guys think is the best buy for the money, which has more features, beter quality etc.
Thanks |
How new is newb?
Put it this way, if you have a fair record collection let's say 100+ and you have a set of at least 1200s MkII or 2 CDJs and you have started to discover your style then do it. Go for a higher value mixer.
If being a newb means that you have tried your mates decks have 20 records and a set of budget decks then don't waste your money on a mixer, get good decks and more records.
Or at least a midrange mixer and more tunes.
Get to grips with the basics and then the more advanced and then look at mixers, unless of course you have money to burn in which case get an 800 or 92.
I'm sure you know in your heart of hearts already if you want to be a DJ or not.
Just my thoughts. Once you get to a good level then branch out as you will know that you made the right choice to start spinning.
If you don't like what you have done, mixers have a much lower resale value generally than a deck.
Ultimately it's up to you, but take the time to learn the kit. If you get a mixer with cool stuff it can hinder your development as you will be too busy faffing around with the effects and stuff..
Just my two euros worth.
Cheers
Nem
Cheers
Nem |
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| Nemesis44 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy
Iv only heard one person say that they actualy disliked the xone mixers.
This was because it had 4 eqs and was over complicated ha!
Tells you something about that persons mixing.... |
Classic he he.
The thing is with an A&H you can still mix really smoothly by just using the low EQ as this is the same as on any mixer, The only difference is that they have split the midrange into high and low.
Most people don't use the mid that much anyway.
Cheers
Nem |
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| Plastick |
Let the debate resume again!
I'm caught in this 92 or 800 thing also. Intend to get myself a pair of cdj1000mkII and now I'm deciding on the mixer. Heard of all the good comments about the 92 (never go wrong, superb sound etc...)
No bad comments of the 800? I'm also wondering if I really need such a good mixer to be used in a bedroom. |
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| Ryan0751 |
The 800 is very new, wheras the Xone 92 has been out for a couple of years now.
| quote: | Originally posted by Plastick
Let the debate resume again!
I'm caught in this 92 or 800 thing also. Intend to get myself a pair of cdj1000mkII and now I'm deciding on the mixer. Heard of all the good comments about the 92 (never go wrong, superb sound etc...)
No bad comments of the 800? I'm also wondering if I really need such a good mixer to be used in a bedroom. |
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| jun139 |
| hmmmmmm get the xone ... no one had any comments for the xone yet.. haha coz its been out for a few years .. and ppl know its good .. the 800 is new .. not many ppl have used it .. therefore the reviews could be wrong ... thats my opinion. |
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| ZeJayMan |
| quote: | Originally posted by Psiweaver
i would go with the xone you'll never need another mixer |
+1 if you dont plan on scratching.... |
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| AGIPRODJ |
I love them both. Owned a Xone:92 for a long time and needed more MIDI functionality. Sold it and got a Pioneer DJM-1000 - Which is a BEAST!!!
The DJM-1000 is going up for sale today actually and I am looking to buy a DJM-800 with a rotary kit.
We put some pix up HERE of our installation of a rotary kit.
Got to play on it the other night and plan on it again this Wednesday through Saturday night.
Sonically, I think the DJM-800 is on par with the 92. If you are going to get a 92, spring for the rotary :) My $.02. |
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| Greedy |
First off, Im gonna squash a lot of posts because some of you have no clue how much mixers mentioned cost. The prices I am quoting are actual quotes Ive been given from online stores when calling. Theyre not gonna offer it to you right away, but you can always talk them down to these prices because they still make money at these quotes.
Pioneer DJM800 ($1240-1290): Awesome mixer, has all the necessary outputs/ins, and extra. Highest digital sound quality since it allows you to input digital devices and output in digital. More effects, has harmonic detection etc. Also works great with the EFX1000 and midi devices.
Pioneer DJM600: If you're saving up like you said you were, dont bother getting a DJM600 because the mixer is around 6 years old. Why save up to get something thats been dated? Sound quality is decent, has a few advantages over the DJM500. I personally wouldnt get it because a lot of dealers are STILL trying to hustle n00bs to dropping $1000 for the DJM600.
Allen & Heath XONE:62 ($800-900): Awesome mixer, great analogue sound, 4 band EQ. Only gripe I have is no RCA outs like the Pioneer so that means you gotta shell out extra for adaptor cables or professional powered monitors. Another gripe I have is no cue/master knob.
Allen & Heath Xone:92 ($1400): Totally awesome mixer, same great analogue sound, comes with cue/master knob, BETTER usage of the filters, better looking overall. Someone please correct me on this, but I dont think you can connect midi devices to this since the Xone3D is out.
Vestax 275 (<=$300): Great solid beginner mixer to get started with.
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Overall, if youre on a bloated budget, youre lookin at the DJM800 and the XONE:62. But when it comes to features, the DJM800 blows the 62 out of the water so now you compare it to the XONE:92 and the A&H is around $200 higher in price.
What it boils to now is personal preference because both mixers are totally different and if the extra $200 is worth getting the A&H. For $200 extra, you get the beautiful layout, the LEDs, the 4 band EQ, the great filters, and the great warm sound.
With the Pioneer you get flawless digital sound, user friendly layout since it is a lot like the DJM600, full midi capability, and all the other bells and whistles mentioned before.
Good luck! |
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| AGIPRODJ |
| great info greedy - just to fill in - yes, the Xone:92 has MIDI - at least tapped tempo and the crossfader too. I am pretty sure there's more on it that has MIDI support. |
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| Ryan0751 |
Nice post...
Yes, you can in fact connect up MIDI devices to the Xone 92. Only several controls output MIDI from it, however:
1. The filter one and two frequency knobs
2. The crossfader
3. Filter 2's "TAP" button
4. The MIDI clock
5. The "start/stop" button
(I think that's all, if you look at a picture of the Xone all the controls with a little picture of a MIDI port next to them are MIDI enabled)
So it's definately not "great" MIDI support compared to the Xone 3D, Ecler Nuo's or the DJM-800/1000, but it's there and A+H were one of the firsts to do it.
I use my Xone 92 with a Kaoss 2 pad and in that case the MIDI works GREAT with that particular effector. The crossfader switches the pad on (I almost never use it to mix), and I can use the filter knobs to control the effects with more precision than using the pad alone. So in my case I love it!
As Greedy said, when you are discussing mixers in this price range it's hard to go wrong. You simply need to make a choice on preference.
One more thing about the Xone: It's built and feels VERY solid. Even makes the DJM-1000 feel "cheap".
| quote: | Originally posted by Greedy
First off, Im gonna squash a lot of posts because some of you have no clue how much mixers mentioned cost. The prices I am quoting are actual quotes Ive been given from online stores when calling. Theyre not gonna offer it to you right away, but you can always talk them down to these prices because they still make money at these quotes.
Pioneer DJM800 ($1240-1290): Awesome mixer, has all the necessary outputs/ins, and extra. Highest digital sound quality since it allows you to input digital devices and output in digital. More effects, has harmonic detection etc. Also works great with the EFX1000 and midi devices.
Pioneer DJM600: If you're saving up like you said you were, dont bother getting a DJM600 because the mixer is around 6 years old. Why save up to get something thats been dated? Sound quality is decent, has a few advantages over the DJM500. I personally wouldnt get it because a lot of dealers are STILL trying to hustle n00bs to dropping $1000 for the DJM600.
Allen & Heath XONE:62 ($800-900): Awesome mixer, great analogue sound, 4 band EQ. Only gripe I have is no RCA outs like the Pioneer so that means you gotta shell out extra for adaptor cables or professional powered monitors. Another gripe I have is no cue/master knob.
Allen & Heath Xone:92 ($1400): Totally awesome mixer, same great analogue sound, comes with cue/master knob, BETTER usage of the filters, better looking overall. Someone please correct me on this, but I dont think you can connect midi devices to this since the Xone3D is out.
Vestax 275 (<=$300): Great solid beginner mixer to get started with.
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Overall, if youre on a bloated budget, youre lookin at the DJM800 and the XONE:62. But when it comes to features, the DJM800 blows the 62 out of the water so now you compare it to the XONE:92 and the A&H is around $200 higher in price.
What it boils to now is personal preference because both mixers are totally different and if the extra $200 is worth getting the A&H. For $200 extra, you get the beautiful layout, the LEDs, the 4 band EQ, the great filters, and the great warm sound.
With the Pioneer you get flawless digital sound, user friendly layout since it is a lot like the DJM600, full midi capability, and all the other bells and whistles mentioned before.
Good luck! |
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| Psiweaver |
| i would definately suggest that if you don't scratch that you get the rotary knob version of the xone:92 its a bit more expensive but the rotary knobs are sooo smooth and soo nice for mixing on. The 600 is crap compared to the 62, 800 or 92 sound quality is garbage on it. If you want midi capability i'd look at 800, xone 3d and eclers nou series. I personally love my xone:92r and haven't ever talked to anyone who doesn't like it if they have one. I also love vinyl and soo the pure digital signal path on the djm800 doesn't appeal to me, but its all a personal decision at this level. |
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