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Ferry Corsten "L.E.F." (pg. 3)
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| DJ RJT |
| Guru and Gangstarr kick ass - I'm looking forward to hearing "Junk" before passing judgment. |
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| Push2005 |
| quote: | Originally posted by THE_Chris
Sorry, but this is an incredibly evil way of trying to get people to buy 4 copies of the album. |
I don't mind... Europe gets I Love You :toocool: |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by Push2005
cause an artist album isn't supposed to be mixed ! |
And why not? |
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| DJ RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by DOOMBOT
How am I, living in the US, supposed to get any of the other versions? |
You can get import versions pretty easily off of Amazon and several other sites :)
Sometimes they cost a fortune though - But generally I've gotten them kind of reasonably. |
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| Protege |
| Cubikated is the live. |
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| tubularbills |
| quote: | Originally posted by Snagglepulse
16) Prison Break Theme (Bonus Track for America)
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yes! sweet!
ps, release date for North America at all? i know you mentioned Holland... |
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| Snagglepulse |
| quote: | Originally posted by tubularbills
yes! sweet!
ps, release date for North America at all? i know you mentioned Holland... |
That I don't think has been announced yet. |
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| Push2005 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
And why not? |
Well I see it this way:
There are already enough mixed cd's and livesets around on the market... But these are rather compilations of tracks. With those tracks the Dj who mixes it together would like to tell some sort of story with it and tries to carefully select what tracks he's going to use.
When a producer comes with an artist album; all the tracks are from the same 'breed'; and often have much elements in common. If tracks are in full length you can judge what the producer did entirely; whether the buildup is good, the extra's are allright etc. In other words: I want to judge his capabilities completely.
When all tracks of the same artist are mixed, it brings some disturbing things with it: There's no real story, because the tracks won't be very diverse; If you want to listen to a particular track (e.g. track 4); then it will start INSTANTLY in almost the middle of the track and all the starting elements are already gone. It doens't give a proper image of the track as a whole.
I said this out of expercience of some albums released lately... Take a listen to:
Mark Norman - Synchronity; the 2nd cd is a mixed cd with all his older tracks, and this mix sounds boring as , coz in the end it all starts to sound the same; whereas each track individually is masterpiece.
Mojado - Arena
Airwave - Trilogique
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(there are others too; can't remember them now, lol)
And for a personal matter I like unmixed cd's too; because then I can use it to Dj with ;)
I hope you don't disagree this time because you always tend to do that :p |
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| Snagglepulse |
Just found out the US release date.
July 11th |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by Push2005
Well I see it this way:
There are already enough mixed cd's and livesets around on the market... But these are rather compilations of tracks. With those tracks the Dj who mixes it together would like to tell some sort of story with it and tries to carefully select what tracks he's going to use.
When a producer comes with an artist album; all the tracks are from the same 'breed'; and often have much elements in common. If tracks are in full length you can judge what the producer did entirely; whether the buildup is good, the extra's are allright etc. In other words: I want to judge his capabilities completely.
When all tracks of the same artist are mixed, it brings some disturbing things with it: There's no real story, because the tracks won't be very diverse; If you want to listen to a particular track (e.g. track 4); then it will start INSTANTLY in almost the middle of the track and all the starting elements are already gone. It doens't give a proper image of the track as a whole.
I said this out of expercience of some albums released lately... Take a listen to:
Mark Norman - Synchronity; the 2nd cd is a mixed cd with all his older tracks, and this mix sounds boring as , coz in the end it all starts to sound the same; whereas each track individually is masterpiece.
Mojado - Arena
Airwave - Trilogique
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(there are others too; can't remember them now, lol)
And for a personal matter I like unmixed cd's too; because then I can use it to Dj with ;)
I hope you don't disagree this time because you always tend to do that :p |
I do, actually (surprising, huh?) :p
I feel albums should be judged as a whole, and not as a collection of individual tunes. Therefore I also think mixed CD's work better... but ONLY if they're done well.
I know what you mean about those albums and I agree that that kind of mixing is quite bad. It's very common when it comes to trance albums, and I think most trance artists shouldn't even be making albums since they're usually just a bunch of singles thrown on the disc with no real thought to it. Another reason for these albums being bad is the artists confusing "theme" with "using the same sound throughout the entire album". I feel albums should be like older Junkie XL and BT albums - not just beatmixed but made to sound like the tracks belong together like the whole album was made in one sitting.
So... in a way I disagree and agree at the same time... if that makes any sense :conf: |
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| Trance Nutter |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
I feel albums should be like older Junkie XL and BT albums - not just beatmixed but made to sound like the tracks belong together like the whole album was made in one sitting.
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bingo.
Doesn't mean mixed in the traditional dj sense but yeah when they blend into each other it is perfect. Faithless are usually good at this too. Not really sure you could do this with modern trance though, it just doesn't seem to have the potential of say BT or Faithless etc to do it, dunno, not enough sounds or something. That and when you change genres ala BT it allows more creativity. The tracks would really have to be reconstructed for the album to be able to pull it off (which wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing) |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trance Nutter
Not really sure you could do this with modern trance though, it just doesn't seem to have the potential of say BT or Faithless etc to do it, dunno, not enough sounds or something. |
That's mostly because trance is pretty much single orientated whereas the artists mentioned do the album first and only then think what to release as a single. Also, most trance artists nowadays are more or less one trick ponies. Take the Three Drives album for example - the exact same sound from start to finish and the mixing was just awful. |
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