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the vinyl market (ebay) - whats going on? is it declining/decreasing?
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| ThaMaestro |
hey folks
this thread is an addition/continue to a short thread which was started HERE
since we got off-topic, and were discussing more n more about the vinyl market on for example ebay and not about the original topic, we thought it would be 'wise' to continue the thread here, and make a special thread for it, so we wont irritate the thread starter of the above-linked thread
anyway, since perhaps nobody wants to double post their original posts, ill do it for them by quoting them (hope it works and every1 sees the point of this thread/topic)
here we go ...
| quote: | Originally posted by DFOP04
sorry to go off topic here (but to be fair i am bumping your thread), but whats going on with ebay in respect to records??!! im guessing everyone has gone digital, because you can get some rare records for dirt cheap these days from the bay, no one wants them anymore!!im gutted coz was hoping on selling some of my records on ebay over summer, but theres no point, just be loosing money!!!
sorry to go off topic, 7 cities is a monster tune, would be v interested, but have most of the mixes of it on 12" as it is.
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| quote: | Originally posted by DaanMc
Yes, it seems like everyone is going digital :(
Records become cheaper and cheaper... I hope this is a temporary thing.. Even the rare records are going cheap indeed.
Only the REAL collectorsitems will be worth something, but I think they will definitely never be as much as they used to be I'm afraid.
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| quote: | Originally posted by waxHead
It's like I said in my post, you're a few years too late. Three years ago, I could've sold ten records for +$1000, now they'll be lucky to sell at all. I think the biggest difference in price is caused by the complete shift in musical tastes. The types of records that used to fetch so much money on eBay aren't popular any longer, so no one's buying them. This is not to say "TRANCE IS DEAD", because anyone with half a brain can figure out that music doesn't die, trance simply lost the main-stream popularity that it enjoyed for about five or six years. Think about it, Oakenfold doesn't play the records he played in the late 90s, early 2000s. Nor does Sasha. Digweed doesn't. Hell, even Tiesto found a new song or two to play, I'm amazed that guy can find his own ass... but enough about him. If you paid a lot of money for some of these records with the plan to sell them later, you're probably screwed. Unless trance suddenly becomes amazingly popular again, these records really aren't worth much any longer.
Look at this 12" release of Frontside's Dammerung:
http://www.discogs.com/release/121653
It's easily one of the most sought-after records by Discogs standards, and was on eBay last week. It sold a few years ago for $300+. It sold over this past weekend for $10.50 USD. The time has passed for this music, and if you're buying it now to resell for profit, you're an idiot.
Buy trance to enjoy, play for yourself and play out for those who appreciate it, but don't spend your money with the idea that you'll make a profit on it, b/c it's not going to happen, at least not for a long, long time. |
| quote: | Originally posted by ThaMaestro
couldnt agree more, or say it better, waxHead. nonetheless, its such a shame. i think i will start focussing more n more now on mixing, in stead of collecting and try selling stuff with a profit .. |
| quote: | Originally posted by ThaMaestro
(i know it looks stupid 2 quote urselfs, but here we go ;)):
on the other hand, you occasionally see sometimes that other genres still gain high/decent prices. i dont know what the market for e.g. progressive or progressive house tunes was like 2 years ago, but nowadays, prices are still fairly good, at least, thats what it seems to me. i could be wrong, since i dont know the history of that specific 'market', but prices usually end around (at least) the original price of the record when its sold in stores ... so thats a plus, if im right ... right? |
| quote: | Originally posted by waxHead
Do you have some specific examples? In general, most trance records from 1994 through now don't sell for much any longer. There are always exceptions, but if you say a record ending at $10 USD on eBay now a "decent price", then you should've watched them a few years ago. |
| quote: | Originally posted by ThaMaestro
with 10 USD i mean a decent price yes. i know that in the past it might have been normal that it was a lot more, but 10 USD is at least the original price. i dont have specific examples, but if you search for people who sell MdK/Sasha/Chable/etc records, their prices end up just below 10 USD. thats what i saw at least 2 days ago, since im a dekay fan, and i watched most of the dekay somebody sold. almost all those record came to some 8 or 9 euro's, which is approx. 10 USD .... thats 'my example'
if i have another good example, ill post it here. is it perhaps an idea to start a topic on this in another thread, since were now kinda ruining this guys' thread/goinf off topic ... ?? |
| quote: | Originally posted by DFOP04
^^^ ha, sorry to the thread starter, we should make a topic of it in the main forum, be interested to hear peoples views on this ebay malark.
max |
and now .... reply & discuss!! |
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| Nell |
i saw this happening 5 years ago and no-one on here believed me. Im so glad i started collecting CD's from the begining. i've got 4,000 discs of trance, house etc from the past 15 years and im in the process of ripping them to a few terrabytes of hard disk space so i have them at my fingertips.
vinyl is a self-delipidating (sp?) format, that was popular in the in 60's. the present (not just the future) is digital. i think its fair to say imo that the cd has finally won the cd vs. vinyl debate. |
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| sandstorm03 |
Im happy about this, A lot of used records are much cheaper to buy.
And i still wont buy a mp3 |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nell
vinyl is a self-delipidating (sp?) format, that was popular in the in 60's. the present (not just the future) is digital. i think its fair to say imo that the cd has finally won the cd vs. vinyl debate. |
CDs may have won for now, but as the use of computers increase cds will become extinct as vinyl will still exist. |
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| keithos27 |
| i think all the main issues have been touched upon... digital formats, shift in genre popularity, etc... buy vinyl if you like the song, not if you want to sell and make a profit (very few records will do that for you these days). and if you want to start a good collection, now is a perfect time. ;) |
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| limin_li |
| I guess my Unknown-Airscape Mix (1998) promo was to be name as Vengaboys-Kiss (Airscape Mix) will go for 10 USD. |
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| Protege |
| quote: | Originally posted by sandstorm03
And i still wont buy a mp3 |
why not? |
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| IpLaYWiTLiGhTs |
| quote: | Originally posted by keithos27
and if you want to start a good collection, now is a perfect time. ;) |
I'm loving it...every track I've always dreamed of wanting is getting marked down dramatically. |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Protege
why not? |
I don't like the idea of buying something you can't hold. But its more then just that I can't explain it.
If I were to buy an mp3 id just feel like im getting ripped off. |
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| dj_helen_k |
| quote: | Originally posted by sandstorm03
I don't like the idea of buying something you can't hold. But its more then just that I can't explain it.
If I were to buy an mp3 id just feel like im getting ripped off. |
get your point, but i mean, most mp3 releases are CHEAPER than a record release, are they not? so how would you get ripped off? |
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| IpLaYWiTLiGhTs |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_helen_k
get your point, but i mean, most mp3 releases are CHEAPER than a record release, are they not? so how would you get ripped off? |
is there really an equivalent of money for the music you love?
:wtf:
i cry. |
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| Akazi |
its hard, its very hard imo, the most important thing is to know what you want to use and like to use and not follow the trend or the majority.
who knows maybe in two years people will get in bored of technology this and technology that and come back to good old vinyl again.
This whole technological evolution has the potential to evolve into its own ass...
i say try out stuff and use what you feel comfortable with and what feels the best to you.
vinyl market is decreasing, theres no doubt about that. But i think that SOME tracks that are very very veeeery good always get a vinyl release cus people who release know that this track is worth the expenses of vinyl pressings and distributing. |
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