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| prothoid |
| ever since this whole war on terror thing started ive been thinking in the back of my head 'ww3'. now that i look at it, i feel we're on the edge of ww3. the more i think about it too, the more i think the 2012 end of world date is going to really be the 'end of the world'. i geuss we'll see in a few years |
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| D-res |
| quote: | Originally posted by eFeKz
i thought india and pakistan hated each other? |
allies with US |
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| Omega_M |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
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Dude, China is a lot more self-reliant than USA and if they stop the trade, US has a lot more to lose than China.
Secondly, China is aiming to be a super power and two countries cannot claim the number one spot. What ever the current trade relations be, there are fundamental differences between their styles of functioning and the two countries are not friends by any means.
THirdly, interdependance was always there at all times in the history. Wars are not fought after rational consideration of economics and all pros and cons of the system. Starting a war is the most irrational thing to do for any country. It puts a lot of strain on the country's economy. Wars are fought more out of deterioration of deep problems between countries which worsen up to the point that one of the country takes a drastic action of starting hostilities. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| lira, you should know better than to bother with topics like this in the COR. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_M
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China doesn't need to fight the US in order to become a super power: it is its greatest enemy, because of all the bureaucracy. Besides, it's not like they have similar spheres of influence or anything. They don't need to claim any sort of "number one spot", actually.
Finally, globalisation has become a little more complicated after the WWII - it's been about 60 years of relative calm, and these countries are no serious threat.
Anyway, our discussion's come to a point where hardly any of us will change opinions, and I think it would be really rude of me if I just went to bed without answering you. Therefore, I'm just withdrawing from the discussion (and probably someone from PDD, more competent on foreign affairs than I am, will take my place here :p).
I enjoyed it though :) |
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| venomX |
| quote: | Originally posted by prothoid
ever since this whole war on terror thing started ive been thinking in the back of my head 'ww3'. now that i look at it, i feel we're on the edge of ww3. the more i think about it too, the more i think the 2012 end of world date is going to really be the 'end of the world'. i geuss we'll see in a few years |
everyone keeps bringing that date up, its not the end of the world its just when the mayan calendar ends, they didnt expand it cuz they died, srsly:p |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
lira, you should know better than to bother with topics like this in the COR. |
We often see a new opinion or two around here :)
I'm not that much into politics anyway, it's just that this fear of an "upcoming world war" intrigues me. Besides, I'm off to bed. |
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| isthatacow2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_M
THirdly, interdependance was always there at all times in the history. Wars are not fought after rational consideration of economics and all pros and cons of the system. Starting a war is the most irrational thing to do for any country. It puts a lot of strain on the country's economy. Wars are fought more out of deterioration of deep problems between countries which worsen up to the point that one of the country takes a drastic action of starting hostilities. |
you do realize that the only reason america came out of a depression was because of WWII right? Wars have the potential to actually boost economy. If it wasnt for WWII, america would not be the only superpower today. |
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| prothoid |
| quote: | Originally posted by venomX
everyone keeps bringing that date up, its not the end of the world its just when the mayan calendar ends, they didnt expand it cuz they died, srsly:p |
wasnt there something about their calender stopped when their own civilization ended or something? |
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| D-res |
| quote: | Originally posted by prothoid
wasnt there something about their calender stopped when their own civilization ended or something? |
not to mention various OTHER prophecies for the same year from other sources |
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_M
Dude, China is a lot more self-reliant than USA and if they stop the trade, US has a lot more to lose than China. |
China only maintains it's economic growth rate through cheap labour production employd by western companies, and cheaply produced products exported to the west. Without that they woul be nothing.
| quote: | | Secondly, China is aiming to be a super power and two countries cannot claim the number one spot. What ever the current trade relations be, there are fundamental differences between their styles of functioning and the two countries are not friends by any means. |
A superpower, just like the soviet union once was along with the US. Besides which there is no such thing as superpowers maintained merely by strict ideology, tyranny and a huge army. That idea alll but died with the collapse of the USSR. When NK fails (as it inevitably will) we will have heard the last of it (except Turkmenistan ofcourse :lol:).
| quote: | | THirdly, interdependance was always there at all times in the history. Wars are not fought after rational consideration of economics and all pros and cons of the system. Starting a war is the most irrational thing to do for any country. It puts a lot of strain on the country's economy. Wars are fought more out of deterioration of deep problems between countries which worsen up to the point that one of the country takes a drastic action of starting hostilities. |
There is a popular view that wars are great for an economy. But regardless, since the end of WWII many wars have been fought based on strategic consideration. First strategic dominance of ideology (The US in Vietnam, Korea, interventions in South America etc). And increasingly economic strategy, particularly with regards to oil, which has been the driver of almost every Western country's intervention in the middle east, Russia's war with Chechnya, Australia's strategy with regards to East Timor etc... If anyone still seriously believes that any country goes into the middle east to spread love and democracy they are in need of a reality check. Everyone looks out solely for their own economic interests, that's the way it works on an individual level, a state level and an international level. All the crap about diplomatic relations is a song and dance routine that hardly anyone buys anymore. |
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| prothoid |
| quote: | Originally posted by D-res
not to mention various OTHER prophecies for the same year from other sources |
what other prophecies, i dont think ive heard any except the mayan one |
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