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what's the point of 'prayer'?
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| Spacey Orange |
| i don't get it. is it meditative? why not just breath deeply instead of making a show of trying to communicate with something that is non-existent? |
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| George Smiley |
| It's to ask for things, like winning the lottery or getting the really cute girl you like to like you back, etc |
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| paranoik0 |
| *flash news* what you consider to be non-existent is considered existent by some, crazy world heh? |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by paranoik0
*flash news* what you consider to be non-existent is considered existent by some, crazy world heh? |
You mean they're crazy, surely?! |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by George Smiley
You mean they're crazy, surely?! |
Actually I just had a thought, is there any difference between someone who beleives in God and someone who has an imaginary friend? |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by George Smiley
Actually I just had a thought, is there any difference between someone who beleives in God and someone who has an imaginary friend? |
Yes. If you have an imaginary friend, most people will tell you he doesn't exist.
If you believe in God, you have enough social narcissism, fear and sometimes even the lack of a possibility not to believe, so the belief is carried on. |
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| Moongoose |
I love quoting George Carlin.
| quote: | I've often thought people treat God rather rudely, don't you? Asking trillions and trillions of prayers every day. Asking and pleading and begging for favors. Do this, gimme that, I need a new car, I want a better job. And most of this praying takes place on Sunday, His day off. It's not nice. And it's no way to treat a friend.
But people do pray, and they pray for a lot of different things, you know, your sister needs an operation on her crotch, your brother was arrested for defecating in a mall. But most of all, you'd really like to that hot little redhead down at the convenience store. You know, the one with the eyepatch and the clubfoot? Can you pray for that? I think you'd have to. And I say, fine. Pray for anything you want. Pray for anything, but what about the Divine Plan?
Remember that? The Divine Plan. Long time ago, God made a Divine Plan. Gave it a lot of thought, decided it was a good plan, put it into practice. And for billions and billions of years, the Divine Plan has been doing just fine. Now, you come along, and pray for something. Well suppose the thing you want isn't in God's Divine Plan? What do you want Him to do? Change His plan? Just for you? Doesn't it seem a little arrogant? It's a Divine Plan. What's the use of being God if every run-down shmuck with a two-dollar prayerbook can
come along and up Your Plan?
And here's something else, another problem you might have: Suppose your prayers aren't answered. What do you say? "Well, it's God's will." "Thy Will Be Done." Fine, but if it's God's will, and He's going to do what He wants to anyway, why the bother praying in the first place? Seems like a big waste of time to me! Couldn't you just skip the praying part and go right to His Will? It's all very confusing. |
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| sasslife |
| quote: | Originally posted by George Smiley
Actually I just had a thought, is there any difference between someone who beleives in God and someone who has an imaginary friend? |
lol.. What a statement!! |
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| Flotser |
| quote: | Originally posted by George Smiley
Actually I just had a thought, is there any difference between someone who beleives in God and someone who has an imaginary friend? |
about 55% of the world are muslim, cristian or jewish...
so you can't say they all are crazy...
but a person having an imaginary friend is quite rare and abnormal :)
And believeing in god is much more that just believing in the existance of something invisible. Its believing in something that created this amazing universe and watches over people and their behaviour - eventually punishing evil and helping the good. It's much more complicated ofcourse and i don't know how to explain it well... |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by Flotser
about 55% of the world are muslim, cristian or jewish...
so you can't say they all are crazy...
but a person having an imaginary friend is quite rare and abnormal :)
And believeing in god is much more that just believing in the existance of something invisible. Its believing in something that created this amazing universe and watches over people and their behaviour - eventually punishing evil and helping the good. It's much more complicated ofcourse and i don't know how to explain it well... |
You crazy! :crazy: |
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| Spacey Orange |
| quote: | Originally posted by Flotser
about 55% of the world are muslim, cristian or jewish...
so you can't say they all are crazy...
but a person having an imaginary friend is quite rare and abnormal :)
And believeing in god is much more that just believing in the existance of something invisible. Its believing in something that created this amazing universe and watches over people and their behaviour - eventually punishing evil and helping the good. It's much more complicated ofcourse and i don't know how to explain it well... |
that that many people actually reason (or don't reason at all, really) like this is pretty bizarre, scary and perhaps explains why humans don't resolve so many of our earth's problems. sloppy thinking.
maybe it is crazy to believe that a god exists. the fact that many people beleive in god, does not make it less crazy. |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spacey Orange
that that many people actually reason (or don't reason at all, really) like this is pretty bizarre, scary and perhaps explains why humans don't resolve so many of our earth's problems. sloppy thinking.
maybe it is crazy to believe that a god exists. the fact that many people beleive in god, does not make it less crazy. |
Depends what the definition of God is...
Lots of beliefs herald the Sun as God, and to be fair, it gives life to everything on Earth so is a pretty good candidate! We can also prove 100% that it exists. So if the Sun is God, then God exists.
Some beliefs say nature is God. Another good candidate as nature is all living things. Therefore God = life. And again, we can prove 100% that nature exists.
If we take that God = creator of the Earth, then God might = two atoms that accidently bumped into each other and formed Earth. God would be the creator of the Earth and we can prove 100% how the Earth was created (I think?!)
However, if we take God to be the generally accepted 'big three' definition then it starts to become absurd and yes, crazy! |
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