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| extulas |
| In America, Rob a bank, Get life, Kill someone, Get 40 years...I dont get it... In some country's, Kill someone, You die without a trial, You rob a bank, You get your hands cut off...All depends where you live... |
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| Michael Russo |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
Well since IT WASNT God who parted the Red Sea..i dont know what your talking about...since it was Moses.....geeezzz arent u the ones who claim to be so religous..i am far from religuos and even i know Moses did....reread that Bible pal...and build a stronger |
Umm... you got me there. Really. That was brilliant.
But no, it was really God who was parting the Red Sea. I can't part large bodies of water, can you? Neither could Moses. But... if God wants me to, I'm sure He could give me the power. Guess what? He wanted Moses to a long time ago. And we all know what happened as a result. |
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| davinox |
i don't understand what you are debating against me tiesto14...
1st of all, YOU CAN'T BELIEVE IN PARTS OF THE BIBLE! It's all, or nothing. You say that God is right some of the time, and wrong some of the time?
2nd) | quote: | | "LOL LOL....if you beleive that then i feel sorry for you...thats where the Bible deceives people...basically kiss Gods ass or u burn in hell...horse ...blah blah blah blah" |
Ok...so what do you believe? you believe in a God that sends everyone to Heaven? Where did you get this belief? Hmm... oh yeah, you made it up. You invisioned it.
I would be interested in what your belief is.
Now here is where the weird stuff is starting to be said...
| quote: | | BLOW UP A WORLD TRADE CENTER.....u sick ing little ...over 3000 people died in those buildings...and you seem to condone it simply cus it was done in the name of a God.. |
Umm...I don't understand. I never did condone it. If you would read, I am ATHEIST. It was these people's belief that we are the devil for helping Israel and because we allow religious freedom. I think it's HORRIBLE. I am ANTI-RELIGION, and you are debating against me, saying I'm for God? WTF, read what I say.
| quote: | | well if thats what it takes to have a God love you for your worshipping or what have you..then all i got to say is GOD AND EACH AND EVERY GOD THAT EXISTS.....how could you try and lecture ME then turn around and say something as moronic as that....NO GOD WOULD WANT 3000 innocent people to die.... |
I agree. No ever loving God would want 3000 innocent people to die. That's why the Bible, even if you take out all of the erranious parts, and parts that aren't true, is BULL.
I agree, why are you getting mad at me???
tiesto14, you are very angry, and I think you'd actually agree with things I'm trying to say, but you are on self-defense mode right now.
and the funny thing is, I agree with Michael Russo alot more than I agree with you.
Michael Russo and I are on the total opposite end of the spectrum, (I am pure Atheist, he is pure Christian.) but Pure-Atheists and Pure-Christains are not ignorant.
People that are "inbetween" with loose views on God, religion, etc, are ignorant. These are the people that are Christians, yet believe in Ghosts....
These are the people that believe there is Jesus Christ, but no Hell.
These are the people that are Christians, but think they have SOULS. (the bible doesn't mention souls ONCE, when the apocolyspe happens, everyone is resurrected, then judged, and if their name is in the Book of Life, they go to Heaven. None of this soul bull.)
Either you are pure-religious, or your are not, or you are ignorant. |
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| Devbert |
Completely barring the issue of whether she's mentally ill or not, I don't think it really matters.
For anyone who thinks she should be let go, or she's been punished enough, etc. etc., look at it like this:
If she came into your house and killed your 5 kids because she was mentally ill, would you forgive her? |
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| biznology |
| quote: | Originally posted by Devbert
Completely barring the issue of whether she's mentally ill or not, I don't think it really matters.
For anyone who thinks she should be let go, or she's been punished enough, etc. etc., look at it like this:
If she came into your house and killed your 5 kids because she was mentally ill, would you forgive her? |
NO, i think the question is: would we kill her or want her killed? |
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| Devbert |
| I don't really know if the death penalty is right or wrong. Sometimes people need to die. other times, I don't know. Especially in a case of mental illness. |
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| extulas |
The fact of the matter is there's the TRUTH and then there's those who choose not to follow it. People these days have completely fallen from the truth. The TRUTH is GODS word. Writen in the Bible for everyone to be saved. Jesus Christ came to grant us life eternaly in heaven. It's simply a matter of admitting you're a sinner and confessing with your lips that Jesus christ is your savior. He came to save everyone no matter how bad you are or ever were he forgives all.He will come again to judge the liveing and the dead. Unfortunately this world is on the path of destruction there's no stoping it. You can already see now that he has set down his plans for end time events. In the end there will be one Goverment.All sorts of violence is poping up all over the world people will do anything for peice. Religious leaders will join with leaders of other religions and decide to drop there differences and focus on the one thing they want "peace".
God tells us not to worry about these things they have to happen in order for everything to be fullfilled. The problem with people these days is they're putting their faith in themselfs. the truth is we are nothing with out christ. If we dont look to the lord for our guidence we are going to fall just as we are begininng to. The United States was built opon some great God fearing men and very great values and priciples. Since the 1960s the US has been falling so rapidly from God and is heading towards destruction. All great nations throughout hisory have fall from with in, Corrupion comes from with in. ALl this libral thinking sounds great and so peacefull to those of this world. But it's so very far from the TRUTH. People no long believe in one TRUTH they feel everyone has to find out their own truths and discover whats right for themselves. YOu see we are nothing on our own we cant find the answers on our own. We have to look to God and Put our faith in him.
Look at such topics as abortion, homosexuality, suicide, Divorce.
when people hear the word abortion they don't seem to see it as KILLING INOCENT BABIES. Do people have any respect for life. For what god has created. You say well shouldnt a mother have the right to choose. TO choose to kill inocent life? I dont know about that one. how can the same people fighting to abolish the death penilty be for Abortion.
Let's look at homosexuality. there are those who hate homosexuals for no reason but being different. there are those who support them and feel they should have the same rights as everone else. Well GOD says you are to Love everyone, GOD says homosexuality is wrong. People these days have been lied to and are being influenced by all this pro choice libral bull and are falling into it. People these days believe you are born gay and that its a natural thing. Based on what? if you actually spent the time to look at what these people are bassing this on and what the world is believe you'd be very shocked. Every single experiment that has been carried out has a full list of flows that totaly debunk every statement made from them. But do people know that, NO. The media 90% Hollywood which suports gay lifesyles, jumps over eveylittle thing that is found and preaches it to the world when the facts arent even stated correctly. A number of years ago resuluts of a study done on a number of Identical twins was out. The media claimed that it was proven that being gay is genetic because in this experiment sets of identical twins were both gay. The statement was that it must be genetic is in these cases both pairs of twins were homosexual, since they are genetically the same. What they failed to mention were the 7 sets of twins in which one was gay and one was straight. also the fact that all these twins were brought up in the same enviroment the other. Well sure that totaly supports the fact that its behavior and not genetic. Look the fact of the matter is There is a lot of Bull in our society these days and you have to be aware of it. You have to be inteligent. You have to know the Truth GODS word. I'm not here to write a 20 page essay on the world today and Gods role in it. I'm here to tell you my friends that if you are lost, if you are confused and dont know were you are heading and what your purpose here on earth is GOD IS THE ANSWER. Only he can free you from the bull in this world only he can't grant you eternal life. So stop looking at the problems and to the world for your comfort look to God. God bless you all. |
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| Devbert |
| quote: | Originally posted by extulas
The fact of the matter is there's the TRUTH and then there's those who choose not to follow it. People these days have completely fallen from the truth. The TRUTH is GODS word. Writen in the Bible for everyone to be saved. Jesus Christ came to grant us life eternaly in heaven. It's simply a matter of admitting you're a sinner and confessing with your lips that Jesus christ is your savior. He came to save everyone no matter how bad you are or ever were he forgives all.He will come again to judge the liveing and the dead. Unfortunately this world is on the path of destruction there's no stoping it. You can already see now that he has set down his plans for end time events. In the end there will be one Goverment.All sorts of violence is poping up all over the world people will do anything for peice. Religious leaders will join with leaders of other religions and decide to drop there differences and focus on the one thing they want "peace".
God tells us not to worry about these things they have to happen in order for everything to be fullfilled. The problem with people these days is they're putting their faith in themselfs. the truth is we are nothing with out christ. If we dont look to the lord for our guidence we are going to fall just as we are begininng to. The United States was built opon some great God fearing men and very great values and priciples. Since the 1960s the US has been falling so rapidly from God and is heading towards destruction. All great nations throughout hisory have fall from with in, Corrupion comes from with in. ALl this libral thinking sounds great and so peacefull to those of this world. But it's so very far from the TRUTH. People no long believe in one TRUTH they feel everyone has to find out their own truths and discover whats right for themselves. YOu see we are nothing on our own we cant find the answers on our own. We have to look to God and Put our faith in him.
Look at such topics as abortion, homosexuality, suicide, Divorce.
when people hear the word abortion they don't seem to see it as KILLING INOCENT BABIES. Do people have any respect for life. For what god has created. You say well shouldnt a mother have the right to choose. TO choose to kill inocent life? I dont know about that one. how can the same people fighting to abolish the death penilty be for Abortion.
Let's look at homosexuality. there are those who hate homosexuals for no reason but being different. there are those who support them and feel they should have the same rights as everone else. Well GOD says you are to Love everyone, GOD says homosexuality is wrong. People these days have been lied to and are being influenced by all this pro choice libral bull and are falling into it. People these days believe you are born gay and that its a natural thing. Based on what? if you actually spent the time to look at what these people are bassing this on and what the world is believe you'd be very shocked. Every single experiment that has been carried out has a full list of flows that totaly debunk every statement made from them. But do people know that, NO. The media 90% Hollywood which suports gay lifesyles, jumps over eveylittle thing that is found and preaches it to the world when the facts arent even stated correctly. A number of years ago resuluts of a study done on a number of Identical twins was out. The media claimed that it was proven that being gay is genetic because in this experiment sets of identical twins were both gay. The statement was that it must be genetic is in these cases both pairs of twins were homosexual, since they are genetically the same. What they failed to mention were the 7 sets of twins in which one was gay and one was straight. also the fact that all these twins were brought up in the same enviroment the other. Well sure that totaly supports the fact that its behavior and not genetic. Look the fact of the matter is There is a lot of Bull in our society these days and you have to be aware of it. You have to be inteligent. You have to know the Truth GODS word. I'm not here to write a 20 page essay on the world today and Gods role in it. I'm here to tell you my friends that if you are lost, if you are confused and dont know were you are heading and what your purpose here on earth is GOD IS THE ANSWER. Only he can free you from the bull in this world only he can't grant you eternal life. So stop looking at the problems and to the world for your comfort look to God. God bless you all. |
Arg, now I have to make some replies.
We all have our own interpretation of what truth is, and being civilized is respecting other's rights to believe what they want. You don't have to agree with them, but people shouldn't be chastised or looked down upon for not having the same perspective as you.
The bible's authenticity is debateable. Definitely some of the things in it are true, but it has transcended milleniums and been translated many times, and for that matter, there is no way to disprove or prove the authenticity of it. It is all a matter of opinion.
God tells us not to worry about these things they have to happen in order for everything to be fullfilled.
The Christian God said this? Where? Please cite.
the truth is we are nothing with out christ
In your opinion. I don't believe in Jesus, and I can't base my entire life on maybe's and whatif's.
The United States was built opon some great God fearing men and very great values and priciples
Like Thomas Jefforson the slaveowner, right?
You say well shouldnt a mother have the right to choose. TO choose to kill inocent life? I dont know about that one. how can the same people fighting to abolish the death penilty be for Abortion.
Tell you what, when you get pregnant, go through labor, have a few kids, I'd like to hear your opinion on it. It is a woman's issue. Also, your proposing an interesting debate: When does life begin? And that too is debateable. You can't compare the Death Penalty to Abortion. One is to punish people for heinous crimes commited, and the other has to do with controlling ones body.
People these days believe you are born gay and that its a natural thing. Based on what?
There is a lot of evidence towards that statement being true. A lot of gay individuals wish they were straight, so they wouldn't have to put up with all the they get for being gay. But they can't change. And just because a book, which can't be proven or unproven, says so, it doesn't make it right.
I respect your views and all, but I couldn't help but disagree with them.
For a guy who follows a religion that preaches love, you sure spend a lot of time hating people. |
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| davinox |
funny, like George Carlin said...
"When it comes to bull, big time, major league bull, you have to stand in awe, in awe, of the all time champion of false promises and exaggerated clams, religion."
http://www.jestercourt.com/~capella/aguide/
should give you a brief glimpse why Religion (namely Christianity) is total bull. :) |
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| extulas |
ARGH! Now for my reply's.:) Dont take it as a threat, Because you live in a corrupt world blinded by sins, I'm not trying to convert anyone, Or say how everyone should be. I have a few friends that are totally oposite of me. It doesnt botehr me any, They are good people. All of the proof you need is faith. Faith in whatever you believe. If you belive cows,dolphins, guns, computers,science, Whatever you believe your god is, Go with it.You have to be pretty corrupt to want to be a president, But the constitution and the BIll of Rights was all based upon the Bible, And how god wanted people to be treated. Having a slave. That would explain WWII? September 11th wouldnt have happened if we didnt join, We treated the blacks bad, And the Germans treated the jews bad. Two wrongs dont make a right, And that is what people are starting to show. People HATE me for not being involved in this governments corruptness. And I love them, Because thats my faith. But now its not just them anymore worrying about being blown up when they walk to the store, It could be us, At any moment. And Jitler would not have hated the Jews if they didnt abandon god, (If anyone says "Hitler wasnt Christian!" or my favorite "Hitler was jewish!" No, he wasnt, My great grandfather and my grandfather were both on the Axis side in WWII, And I know for facts that the thrid reich was not gay\whatever...) The whole war wouldnt have happened! And everyone would be getting along fine now. Like God wanted to. Is school teaching against god now? Or is it just society?
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Dont say I am racist cause my great grandfather and grandfather were in WWII, Their was a thing called Dictatorship,Brainwashing going on.... Sorry this isnt good, Im a little not their now :stongue: |
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| extulas |
| quote: | Originally posted by Devbert
I don't really know if the death penalty is right or wrong. Sometimes people need to die. other times, I don't know. Especially in a case of mental illness. |
Well, I am "mentally ill", (Paranoia,And osme otehr ..) But I still know not to kill anyone. I know what is right and what is wrong. How can she not? I know people who have the same symptoms as her, And Skitzophrenia, Has many many levels. One can be just to do minor things you should do, Like,, Kicking a dog or a cat or a person. All the way down to killing people. But I just dont see how a person cant tell wrong from right. I admit, In middle school I got in trouble alot, And their was this kid, Who was mentally challenged, Who stabbed his mom. When the judge asked him if what he did was wrong, What was it? The kid said "I hurt mommy." So, Your trying to tell me that a kid with a IQ of 75 or - (75 and below is the mentally challeneged level) Knows right from wrong from a 30+ year old women?! COmeone now! And yes, Christians are usually the first to forgive people for people who have done bad things. |
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| davinox |
| quote: | Originally posted by extulas
And yes, Christians are usually the first to forgive people for people who have done bad things. |
and the first to jump at "infedels".
and basically, she pissed on Christianity. She thought she was the Anti-Christ! She asked for George Bush to execute her himself, and reveal a 666 on her forhead.
The reason she killed her kids was because she interpreted a Bible passage saying a bad mother should be punished by the death of her kids.
of course, it is Christianity to "forgive her". still, she pissed on your religion, and she is not a "normal person" |
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