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Ancient artwork depicting aliens, UFOs ... (pg. 7)
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| Magnetonium |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
uh-huh! they're so powerful that theyre controlling our governments or whatever, yet they havent developed anti-missile technology. come now! :haha:
um, so how did they get here again if they didnt travel a long way away? for the record, even mars is a ing long way away by 21st scientific standards.
ahhh yes. the conspiracy theorists' panacea. "superior technology" to fill absolutely any gap in logic. cant make something fit nicely? use a made-up tech to justify your position or explain naturally occuring phenomena. they have bases in the ocean because...? they have remained totally secret to our every investigation of the planet, yet are worried about a few vessels passing miles on top of them? they choose a place relatively close to inhabitants when 7/8s of the planet is covered in ocean?
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they have superior technology allowing space travel and underwater bases, undetectable by humans.
this superior technology doesnt prevent them from being shot down or crashing.
this superior technology is somehow threatened by ships sailing on the ocean.
all the independant observatories around the world dont pick up their prescence in the sky, because they have cloaking technology that doesnt prevent them from being shot at.
these aliens have got nothing better to do than fly around the galaxy and hide in the bermuda triangle or nevada desert or conduct experiments on like 25% of the american population. because fat lazy sports fans are integral to the first intellectuals of the cosmos.
you still haven't been locked up for your own safety? :conf: |
LOL ... every planet has its own gravity. The alien pilots use mind to navigate the craft, and its not that easy when the gravity is too strong. Don't forget that the universe is gigantic, and there are probably thousands of alien civilizations observing us as we speak. Many different crafts that were seen would explain that.
Oh, and by the way, even the best pilots we have on Earth crash, you know, there's such thing as equipment problems especially with complex machines.
You know, you might think its crazy, but hundreds of thousands of people around the world claim to have seen or experienced UFOs. Call these people crazy. Call their stories crazy.
Aliens build bases away from human population centers for simple reasons. They dont want to interfere with us, they want us to make our own civilization, build our own society, so that we can make our own independent decisions. They help us occassionally with technology, advice, and they do their own kind of studies and on the side. They travel the world to explore, study, learn ... these creatures live up to 1000 years.
| quote: | Originally posted by metalgearsolid
You are not getting it Magnetonium.
I know that they do not want to silence them. Rather they understand that people will see things they were not meant to see. that is when they select generals or personel that are going to be the scapegoats. What they do is come out and reveal what they know. When they do this they are knowing what is going to happen. They will be critized by the media.
But that is ok. It is what they want you to know. Words won't make a person shut up. When they come out people will believe that what they have to say and others wont and a lot MORE don't care. Freedom of speech is slavery.
Why would they come out so easily if they understand that there is no harm? Why would they continue to ask American civilians for their signature to bring to congress so they can declassify documents on UFOs or Aliens? Why bother when they know the majority of people won't do anything?
I don't think you will understand what Im saying. |
The government controls the media. They can make a mess like in Waco, Texas and get away with it. Everything changed after Watergate. The government keeps a careful eye on the media, and media can lie, just like that famous Monsento vs. 2 Fox journalists case in 2002 showed.
They can really shut anybody up and the media won't be making any articles. Media is selective now!
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
LOL ... every planet has its own gravity. The alien pilots use mind to navigate the craft, and its not that easy when the gravity is too strong. Don't forget that the universe is gigantic, and there are probably thousands of alien civilizations observing us as we speak. Many different crafts that were seen would explain that. |
its hilarious the way you talk about these ideas as if theyre fact. the aliens use mind control to pilot their craft. en LOL.
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
Oh, and by the way, even the best pilots we have on Earth crash, you know, there's such thing as equipment problems especially with complex machines. |
craft that can traverse the galaxy suddenly get technical difficulties when they reach earth. RIGHT.
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
You know, you might think its crazy, but hundreds of thousands of people around the world claim to have seen or experienced UFOs. Call these people crazy. Call their stories crazy. |
sure do. people LOVE to feel as if theyre special. you only have to look at the over-represented % ofalien abductees from the good ol USA.
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
Aliens build bases away from human population centers for simple reasons. They dont want to interfere with us, they want us to make our own civilization, build our own society, so that we can make our own independent decisions. They help us occassionally with technology, advice, and they do their own kind of studies and on the side. They travel the world to explore, study, learn ... these creatures live up to 1000 years. |
im really glad youre here to tell us these things :haha:
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
The government controls the media. They can make a mess like in Waco, Texas and get away with it. |
you really dont have a strong grasp of how media works imo. to argue government is more powerful than business (at their own business) simply isnt true in the western liberal democracies. this concept that governments are all-powerful and mysterious and capable of all kinds of manipulation of the populace isnt how things work im sorry to say.
if you had spent any time working in government you'd outgrow this obsession you have with them as some kind of illuminate. liberal democratic governments simply cant function like this on the scale that you believe. |
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| Magnetonium |
Alright, well if you dont believe in aliens, I respect that - you dont have to. The information I use on aliens is mostly based on Philip Corso and William Cooper. Those guys served in the high eschelons of US military, and they have credibility.
There is really no "factual" information on aliens out there, other than some paintings and architectures, all the facts are locked within the government vaults.
Please dont pick on our conversations, because I am not backing off and there's really no strong evidence other than these great books on aliens and other than the evidence from the history. So I cant really say you're wrong ... but I am going with my instincts on this one. The truth will eventually come out, this cant be hidden forever.
Please dont bother disproving this UFO phenomenon topic, its not going to do anything positive. However, if you have any ideas, points and evidence, please share it with us here. Thanks! |
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| venomX |
| I have a question, how much of this debate resembles religious debates, i mean "the aliens dont want to interfere they want us to be free but theyre watching" doesnt that sounds an awful lot like the christian idea of god hehe, hey he's there, he's watching, but he wants you to take your own decisions :p This debate IS mostly from what im reading pure conjeture(sp?). There is no actual proof, if you want to believe in it, feel free to do so, but for crying out loud dont post like its the irreversible, undeniable truth, be a bit more humble because there ovbiously no smoking gun here. |
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| Magnetonium |
To anyone interested in UFO's and paranormal, I HIGHLY recommend a mind-blowing book series by Dolores Cannon, called "Convoluted Universe". She's a well-respected hypnotist ;-)
There are two books in the series, Book 1 and 2.
http://www.amazon.com/Convoluted-Un...e/dp/1886940827
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
my problem is some people here seem to have a pre-disposition to believe anything that fits nicely into their belief system. something as far-fetched as alien visitors that control the governments or a government conspiracy to hide the truth SHOULD need a lot more than a few bright lights in the sky or some "tell all" novels to convince people.
ths onus isnt on me to disprove anything, its your theory, thus your responsibility to prove some evidence. and you havent. and cant. whilst im not ruling out the possibility of other life, this idea that theyre here already is believed far too quickly by people, simply because they want to believe it, rather than some logical and irrefutable proof of anything.
the fact that you also believe things like diana was murdered just makes me think you're all too quick to swallow things that have much simpler and more logical answers. |
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| venomX |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
Alright, well if you dont believe in aliens, I respect that - you dont have to. The information I use on aliens is mostly based on Philip Corso and William Cooper. Those guys served in the high eschelons of US military, and they have credibility.
There is really no "factual" information on aliens out there, other than some paintings and architectures, all the facts are locked within the government vaults.
Please dont pick on our conversations, because I am not backing off and there's really no strong evidence other than these great books on aliens and other than the evidence from the history. So I cant really say you're wrong ... but I am going with my instincts on this one. The truth will eventually come out, this cant be hidden forever.
Please dont bother disproving this UFO phenomenon topic, its not going to do anything positive. However, if you have any ideas, points and evidence, please share it with us here. Thanks! |
All the conjetures from history that you guys bring up HAVE BEEN DISPROVED. Seriously, many a test are out there on how all those expectacular buildings were built. It IS possible and IT WAS possible to build them with the technology they had. Stop making it sound like there is no proof or no research done on why and how and when ancient societies dissappeared and how they built their cities. All this "oh look at their buildings some aliens most of helped them" is getting quite ridiculous, go do some more research instead of blabbering on. |
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| metalgearsolid |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
my problem is some people here seem to have a pre-disposition to believe anything tha |
...are you going to finish your sentence:conf: |
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| Spirit5 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
Alright, well if you dont believe in aliens, I respect that - you dont have to. The information I use on aliens is mostly based on Philip Corso and William Cooper. Those guys served in the high eschelons of US military, and they have credibility.
There is really no "factual" information on aliens out there, other than some paintings and architectures, all the facts are locked within the government vaults.
Please dont pick on our conversations, because I am not backing off and there's really no strong evidence other than these great books on aliens and other than the evidence from the history. So I cant really say you're wrong ... but I am going with my instincts on this one. The truth will eventually come out, this cant be hidden forever.
Please dont bother disproving this UFO phenomenon topic, its not going to do anything positive. However, if you have any ideas, points and evidence, please share it with us here. Thanks! |
Yeah right on. Nothing we are saying is set in stone truth, it's mostly speculation, with most based upon stuff we've read and seen on TV and made up our own minds about. That's what you have to do. You have to really read about it first and look at the evidence at hand, and then make up your mind. It's mostly those who haven't sat down and read a book about it, that think it's all fake. There's just so much crap out there. I admit, that it's hard sorting through what is credible and what is not, and unfortunitely, there isn't much credible out there. There are famous cases though, that do seem pretty credible...from high ranking people or from ordinary people who had no clue about the phenomenon...before it existed in the public conscious...like the Betty & Barney Hill case. |
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| venomX |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
To anyone interested in UFO's and paranormal, I HIGHLY recommend a mind-blowing book series by Dolores Cannon, called "Convoluted Universe". She's a well-respected hypnotist ;-)
There are two books in the series, Book 1 and 2.
http://www.amazon.com/Convoluted-Un...e/dp/1886940827
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What the crap, hypnotists now!?! Hypnosis has been proven to be complete and utter bull, this is the last drop lol im leaving this threat. Hypnosis has been widely disproven by psychologist because it basically inplants ideas into peoples heads, nothing else. |
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| Magnetonium |
| quote: | Originally posted by venomX
I have a question, how much of this debate resembles religious debates, i mean "the aliens dont want to interfere they want us to be free but theyre watching" doesnt that sounds an awful lot like the christian idea of god hehe, hey he's there, he's watching, but he wants you to take your own decisions :p This debate IS mostly from what im reading pure conjeture(sp?). There is no actual proof, if you want to believe in it, feel free to do so, but for crying out loud dont post like its the irreversible, undeniable truth, be a bit more humble because there ovbiously no smoking gun here. |
I am not saying I am absolutely certain, this is a very weak topic. I just believe in this. In my opinion there's strong evidence from former government and military officials of high ranks, architecture and art. Its not conclusive by any means. I believe that the truth will come out eventually. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by metalgearsolid
...are you going to finish your sentence:conf: |
haha, see edit ;) |
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