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Nations must seek permission of US to enter outer space (pg. 2)
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| dEsidEL |
| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
This is good news.
A hostile nation with access to space presents a significant risk for freedom and democracy loving peoples. |
LOL.. gotta love RJ's unquestioning support
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| cenik |
| quote: | Originally posted by infinity HiGH
Space doesn't belong to the US. They should have no say in who gets to go and who doesn't. |
That's essentially what I thought when I read this in the paper this morning :D |
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| El Kay Dee |
| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
This is good news.
A hostile nation with access to space presents a significant risk for freedom and democracy loving peoples. |
such as the US itself |
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| DeTrOiT_bEnDeR |
| quote: | Originally posted by infinity HiGH
What does a British spy have to do with this though? lol |
Moonraker Plot Summary;
"When a U.S. space shuttle is stolen in a midair hijacking, only Bond can find the evil genius responsible. The clues point to billionaire Hugo Drax, who has devised a scheme to destroy all human life on earth! As Bond races against time to stop Drax's evil plot, he joins forces with Dr. Holly Goodhead, a NASA scientist who is as beautiful as she is brilliant. And 007 needs all the help he can get, for Drax's henchman is none other Bond's old nemesis Jaws, the indestructible steel-toothed giant. Their adventure leads all the way to a gigantic space station, where the stage is set for an epic battle for the fate of all mankind."
hehe:) I bet thats where this came from, Bush fell asleep watching Moonraker one night on TV and woke up with this brillant plan to save us from death orbs and evil space stations, I can only thank god... errr |
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| rabbitjoker |
Space has no borders and thus belongs to all of the people of the world.
Fundamentally speaking, people are always free - it is hostile governments/dictators that impose non-democratic/freedom upon their nations. So this act is not taking away "rights" or "ownership" of space from "free people". It is protecting space from hostile aggressors.
Hostile nations are those who do not believe in the democratic way of life. Hostile nations seek to destroy freedom and democracy via any means (including space means) and they seek to destroy them because they compromise their power (with true democracy they have no power base).
As free and democratic people - it is our responsibility to proactively protect ourselves from hostile nations and if defending space is a part of that protection of freedom than I am all for it. |
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| El Kay Dee |
| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Hostile nations are those who do not believe in the democratic way of life. |
hmmm...saudi arabia for example is a non democratic country.....so its hostile right? in that sense, why isnt the US overthrowing the government, so on and so forth?
just a question |
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| Vivid Boy |
| wtf bush cant do that! i claimed space like 5 years ago. i sent my flag up in a helium balloon along with a letter to god |
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| Cro_Addict |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
This is sooo ed up. First,
Nice and vague, just the way USA likes it. What exactly is hostile to US interests? Last time I checked, US was doing all of the hostilities around the world. Or do we blame the countries for the acts of terrorists residing in those counries? Secondly, who made USA the ing governing nation of the entire world? Why do they alone have to power to decide who gets access to space and who doesn't? Space is free territory - you can't just exercise control over what is not yours. This is such bull on soo many levels.
Obviously. :rolleyes:
Yay USA! always fighting for the better of the entire world. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Wow, suddenly the reasoning for being against banning space weapons is crystal clear. And no it gives them a strategic advantage - "Yea, so we can have space weapons, but we also can dictate who can have them and who can't, essentially taking control over what isn't ours, and asserting military power and control over the rest of the world. Hahahah!" |
I AGREE WITH YOU 10000000000%.. END OF DISCUSSION!!! |
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| nusty |
| First they delcare the Canadian North West Passage as a US defended territory and now this... oh man. they are trying hard to own the world (and beyond, aparently) before the chinese aren't they! lol. :D |
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| Vivid Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by nusty
First they delcare the Canadian North West Passage as a US defended territory and now this... oh man. they are trying hard to own the world (and beyond, aparently) before the chinese aren't they! lol. :D |
makes u almost want to go over and help north korea with their nuclear revolution |
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| El Kay Dee |
| quote: | Originally posted by nusty
First they delcare the Canadian North West Passage as a US defended territory and now this... oh man. they are trying hard to own the world (and beyond, aparently) before the chinese aren't they! lol. :D |
eh u...come back to canada before they consider u hostile by having ties with canada |
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| Cosmic Fur |
| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Space has no borders and thus belongs to all of the people of the world.
Hostile nations are those who do not believe in the democratic way of life. Hostile nations seek to destroy freedom and democracy via any means (including space means) and they seek to destroy them because they compromise their power (with true democracy they have no power base).
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If it belongs to everyone, then not one single nation should be able to dictate everyone else's right to it. Just like the public roads belong to everyone, so I can't close off a road and dictate who is allowed to pass and who isn't.
Umm.. no. Democracy is not the only way of life, nor does a lack of democracy mean hostility to a democratic nation. Saying if your country is not democratic you must be hostile to democratic nations is as stupid as saying if your country is primarily Muslim you must be hostile to all Christian countries. Hostility starts at military attacks, not at having different ways of life.
Just like "fighting for democracy" was a thin veil over taking control of Iraq's oil, this "protecting democracy" is a thin veil at increasing USA's influence over the rest of the world to make it comply with the interests of USA. |
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