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Should US be punished for all this mayhem it has caused in this world? (pg. 2)
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| CHRles |
| I completely agree with Groundhog Boy. |
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| Marc Summers |
| quote: | Originally posted by Purple
O really? A classic example of shifting blames, were shias and shinnies fighting before? where they killing each other b4? who started it? wasnt saddam running a country and maintaining peace and stability b4? |
This Shiite/Sunni battle was around ever since the caliphs split. Saddam just had such absolute power, that the iraqis had other things to worry about. Now that they have freedom, they can resume their stupid little war that have been going on for 1000+ years.
| quote: | | did he picked up random sunni chick and raped her? did he? or did he picked random kurdish chikced and raped her? |
He let his sons do that :) |
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| jonSun |
| quote: | Originally posted by Marc Summers
He let his sons do that :) |
dont copy my lines :whip: :wtf: :p |
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| Marc Summers |
| quote: | Originally posted by jonSun
dont copy my lines :whip: :wtf: :p |
Oh , sorry! I have a habit of not reading other people's replies. Nice one! :)
Groundhog boy made a really good point, too! He knows wine, and a lot of other stuff, he is my boy! |
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| metalgearsolid |
| Purple, wtf? It shouldn't be just because of what is happening in Iraq. We have done much worse, than what is happening in Iraq. |
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| Clovis |
We have grossly mishandled Iraq, but we are not yet close to inflicting as much damage as 30 years of Baath rule.
Purple as usual demonstrating that he doesn't understand about . |
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| CHRles |
| quote: | Originally posted by metalgearsolid
Purple, wtf? It shouldn't be just because of what is happening in Iraq. We have done much worse, than what is happening in Iraq. |
Yeah wtf Purple? You forgot to blame America for ALL the problems of the world :rolleyes: |
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| metalgearsolid |
| quote: | Originally posted by CHRles
Yeah wtf Purple? You forgot to blame America for ALL the problems of the world :rolleyes: |
NO, I NEVER SAID THAT.
I was just saying that. We have done worser things than this. |
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by metalgearsolid
NO, I NEVER SAID THAT.
I was just saying that. We have done worser things than this. |
Worse things. |
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| Lilith |
Iraq was always busted.
It's just under new, transitional leadership and its currently popular too blame the yanks for everything happening there. |
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| Spacey Orange |
purple, i wish it were so simple.
the people who bear most, if not all, of the responsibility for the mayhem in iraq, will, in all likelyhood, never have to bear any costs. by those people, i mean the president of the united states, the us vp, tony blair, high level officials in the british and amerian governments, the saudi monarchy, and the kuwaitis. they will live in peace and in wealth.
it's a bit of irony that it's the people that probably bear the least amount of responsibility for the war that will burden its costs. in the us it will be the common taxpayers, military personel and their families. but maybe this is how it should be. the american public, time and time again, demonstrated it's unqualified support for bush's policies. perhaps next time a president rushes to war, the public will be a little more restrained and critical of a president's policies. i only wish that only those that the supported the war would have to burden it's cost. as it is, even the anti-war americans will have to pay. |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by Purple
O really? A classic example of shifting blames, were shias and shinnies fighting before? where they killing each other b4? who started it? wasnt saddam running a country and maintaining peace and stability b4? did he picked up random sunni chick and raped her? did he? or did he picked random kurdish chikced and raped her? Its the US soilders raping girls in iraq.. not iraqis..
US soilders are striping iraqis naked and taking pics, raping iraqi girls, capturing all oil feilds..
There is no law, no peace. everything is just ed.. a total lawlessness and .. |
Wow.
Talk about seeing a world through beer-Bush-bashing-goggles. :wtf:
Seriously, do you even think about 1/2 the stuff you post before coming out with those wild accusations?
Shifting blame?
Not necessarily. The ONLY reason that place isn't one huge pile of smoking rubble is because no one could move from under dictator Saddam's big thumb.
Now that there's some actual 'freedom', the infighting between the local warlords / religious sects can now play itself out.
You'd have to be a complete idiot in thinking that wasn't going to happen; just look at ANY democratic country and you'll see that pattern; why so be shocked about the obvious?
So you could blame the U.S. for that I suppose, however I hypothesize that would have happened even if it hadn't been the States; they just perpetuated it sooner rather than later.
Therefore your, 'Status quo' argument wasn't a situation that was necessarily any better (in reality, it was worse) than what you obviously thought it was.
And for someone who is actually from that 1/2 of the world, I should be preaching to the choir...
The Iraqi people will have to decide for themselves and this will all play out in the end.
Will it be easy? No one ever said it would be.
Will it be worth it? That's a fate only the Iraqi people can answer themselves, however at least they're actually being given the opportunity to decide for themselves which is why the States need to get out of that crossfire and not complicate the situation for them any longer.
As for the raping, pillaging, etc. can Bush really be blamed for all that??
Theoretically he is the one in over-all command, however he can't be faulted for EVERY SINGLE incident that some dumb-assed grunt makes on their own accord.
They do have military law and a code of conduct you know.
I bet if you were to actually research any situation of that ilk you'll find them charged and rightly so. |
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