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Why go Software over Hardware?? (pg. 2)
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kitphillips
Well, everyones going down the "you must have hardware" road, I say you must have software! What are you going to use tape or a hard disk recorder? Not many people doing that in the last five years! If u got money to burn (sounds like it) buy sonar then go for some hw synths or software synths just, do your research, hang round here a while... u will learn. some hardware synths and samplers are (extracted directly from my wishlist);
Access virus TI
Nord Lead
roland Fantom
V synth XT
Waldorf Q
Korg triton
Dave smith poly evolver
Novation xiosynth
Krispy Kreme
if you want to sound like then keep it all software.
leahzero
All of this "advice" is irrelevant, because you're a beginner who doesn't know how seriously he will get into music creation. You want a guaranteed way to waste thousands of dollars? Decide you want to start on an expensive new hobby and tell yourself you need to "start off on the right foot" or whatever BS you seem to think you need. Drop cash on expensive hardware AND software and two weeks, two months, two years later you'll find that it's really not for you after all--or you bought the wrong kind of gear for what you discovered your style of music was--or you really just want to DJ and not produce--or blah blah blah. Sure, some hardware is resellable, but you'll still lose money overall and software is a total loss.

This is my advice, and it applies to virtually every artistic profession/hobby out there. Start off with the BARE MINIMUM tools you need to create that sort of art. In your case, go download some sequencer demos, buy a cheap but well-rounded one like FL Studio (I suggest you avoid Reason at the start and learn how to work with a proper host and plugins first), then sit down and learn all you can about it. When you get to the point that you feel that the limits of your tools are hampering your creativity or your flow, THEN you buy a new piece of kit--a new VST, a new hardware synth, whatever.

This is probably not the advice you want to hear--sounds like you just want a quick, satisfying answer that will tell you something you've already decided anyway--but it's the most realistic. You don't "need" anything to start but some barebones software. The upshot is that creativity thrives on limitation. Start small and slow, learn, grow, mature. Spend money sparingly, even if you do have the luxury of throwing it away--spending too much may end up with you overwhelming yourself with gear you don't know how to use or appreciate. It's the same as any art. There is no magic piece of hardware or software that can churn out professional-quality music, or everyone would be using it and there wouldn't be so much crap floating around. :P

GL, HF.
DJ Shibby
Way to do zero research into something you're thinking of spending loads of money on... , a sucker is born every minute.

Anyway, to answer your question, would you rather have small blinking single patterned heavy awkward hardware units to make your patterns and music, or all of it available intuitively on a computer screen?

Yea... thought so.
DJ Shibby
quote:
Originally posted by tonytovar
THANK YOU! FINALLY A REPLY WITH SOME USEFUL INFORMATION ON WHAT TO GET! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU



hahaha... he was being sarcastic...
Mr.Mystery
quote:
Originally posted by Krispy Kreme
if you want to sound like then keep it all software.

Explain.
dj_kane
quote:
Originally posted by Krispy Kreme
if you want to sound like then keep it all software.


dont get this either.

think your talking :wtf:
Synchronicity
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Originally posted by leahzero
All of this "advice" is irrelevant, because you're a beginner who doesn't know how seriously he will get into music creation. You want a guaranteed way to waste thousands of dollars? Decide you want to start on an expensive new hobby and tell yourself you need to "start off on the right foot" or whatever BS you seem to think you need. Drop cash on expensive hardware AND software and two weeks, two months, two years later you'll find that it's really not for you after all--or you bought the wrong kind of gear for what you discovered your style of music was--or you really just want to DJ and not produce--or blah blah blah. Sure, some hardware is resellable, but you'll still lose money overall and software is a total loss.

This is my advice, and it applies to virtually every artistic profession/hobby out there. Start off with the BARE MINIMUM tools you need to create that sort of art. In your case, go download some sequencer demos, buy a cheap but well-rounded one like FL Studio (I suggest you avoid Reason at the start and learn how to work with a proper host and plugins first), then sit down and learn all you can about it. When you get to the point that you feel that the limits of your tools are hampering your creativity or your flow, THEN you buy a new piece of kit--a new VST, a new hardware synth, whatever.

This is probably not the advice you want to hear--sounds like you just want a quick, satisfying answer that will tell you something you've already decided anyway--but it's the most realistic. You don't "need" anything to start but some barebones software. The upshot is that creativity thrives on limitation. Start small and slow, learn, grow, mature. Spend money sparingly, even if you do have the luxury of throwing it away--spending too much may end up with you overwhelming yourself with gear you don't know how to use or appreciate. It's the same as any art. There is no magic piece of hardware or software that can churn out professional-quality music, or everyone would be using it and there wouldn't be so much crap floating around. :P

GL, HF.


Well, you seem to assume and predict a lot about his situation.
And...

quote:
creativity thrives on limitation.


This depends on the person.


But obviously I agree that taking your time to figure the basics and what you really need first is the best option.
tonytovar
Hey to those who say that just sticking around the board was the way to go. You are right! I'm learning soooo much from my to topic posts. The one about the software vs. hardware, and te BIO. Answer that one too if you havent. I love hearing about how people started and the softare hardware they used.
DigiNut
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Originally posted by leahzero
...or you really just want to DJ and not produce

Heh, that's a funny one, I've seen a few people do that. It fits with the way those people think, though - if you want to be a "star" just by spending a lot of money then DJing is often the way to go, because most DJs are rated by the tracks they play as opposed to any real skill (whatever is left in the profession).

Which is not by any means saying that there are no skilled DJs, just that DJing is far more attractive to impatient spendthrifts than production. More raw materials to acquire, less finnicky and complicated controls to think about, more immediate gratification.

Krispy Kreme
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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Explain.


All software means keeping everything in the box. This also means using your computer as summing which sounds like . You never bring anything out so all it is , is 1s and 0s. This leads to sounding like imo
DJMiakoda
Maybe what this cat's wondering is what are the pro's using?

I'm sure this varies as well but, what would be the general consensus nowadays?
Do most professional producers (professional being signed to a label) prefer strictly hardware or hardware synched to software or are alot of producers using strictly software now?
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