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JOC/Tyas/ - Bassdrum Kick? (pg. 6)
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| camsr |
| Say PLEASE for 5 free samples! :D |
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| mysticalninja |
| actually i was talking to camsr i want to hear one of his soundforge kicks. thats a nice fatty u got there tho. nice punchy compression. |
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| camsr |
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| mysticalninja |
| i dont want to use it.. i know what its gonna sound like already anyway, a psy kick. |
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| richg101 |
| quote: | Originally posted by mysticalninja
why do you put layering in quotes like its some crazy idea or something? have you ever tried it? it makes FAT kicks, a ty kick can be good in a layer if it just has decent mids or highs. ty kicks are the only kind worth layering.. if u have a good kick already it doesnt need anything layered :) |
the reason i put 'layering' into inverted comma's is because it seams to be a very popular first suggestion on how to make a good kick. when this is one of the last things that should be done. i layer too, mainly if i want to get a distorted kcik that still has big punch - but i know that im gonna need at least one top dog kick in the equasion if i intend on getting anything thatll work efficiently on a dancefloor system.
i seriously doubt sean has layered lots of kicks to create his bass drums. id be more inclined to say he has got a nice all round kick from a decent sample cd and then compressed it to fit in his track.
id also say he probably used a attack of 45-50ms and a release of 20ms (this is what i have found most professional engineers abide by when adding comp to kicks.) |
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| mysticalninja |
the release shorter than the attack? i dunt even kno what thatd do, i always put my release about the length of the kick if im compressing it individually
did you mean 200ms? thats a good averange for the lenght of a kick. alittle long, like a house length kick.
anyway, DJ_KANE, theres no point in layering a perfectly good kick, why would you replace the low end or high end if its already good on both? youd probably just make it worse. if the kick already has highs mids and lows you like i dont get why you would change them. layering two good kicks wont make a new good kick, and layering isnt just about making new kicks anyway. its about making use of kicks that are only half way there, but the half thats there is good .
| quote: | | it very hard to find a track nowadays with the kick playing solo in any part of the track. |
not necessary, all you need is for no other sound to hit at the same time as the kick drum, you can find this in alot of modern trance. if its a fast BPM track and the hihat or something cuts into the tail of it, you just crossfade the attack phase of what you ripped with an 808/909 decay tail. youll never tell the difference.
| quote: | | i seriously doubt sean has layered lots of kicks to create his bass drums. id be more inclined to say he has got a nice all round kick from a decent sample cd and then compressed it to fit in his track. |
theres a good chance he uses a kick thats already been layered for him on a vengeance cd. he uses vengeance loops for sure, so its pretty likely. like 80% of vengeance kicks are layered/crossfaded. |
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| substorm |
| This descussion is really starting to get old.. :rolleyes: |
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| mysticalninja |
if it bores you then gtfo lol!
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| substorm |
| quote: | Originally posted by mysticalninja
if it bores you then gtfo lol! |
Well....hmmm... let see...NO! I actully im trying to help our here, while your just talk alot ...as always.!
So, i think i speak for most of us when i say that, YOU get the out of here! Your just an anoying....... "THING"!
Yea thats what i call you...Thing... like in Adams family! |
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| mysticalninja |
lol sory.. i thought me and rich were actually having a good discussion about layering kicks and eachothers way of working.
i was having fun and learning a bit about how others work.. SO SORRY for you having to read my posts and be annoyed since its impossible to scroll by them right. |
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| substorm |
Ok guys! hope ill put an end to this. How did i get/do it?... You never know!
Here you go. I will have these files up until tomorrow! This is a single layer kick!
Onova´s thight kick:
How i can sound in a mix:SAMPLE MIX!
The kick: (save as)THE KICK!
Hope this is something what you mean!
Cheers |
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| mysticalninja |
| pretty nice, did you soundforge it? my hr824s say it needs alittle eqing.. the sample you posted sounds alittle less deep than in the mix, did you eq it or is that from mastering? |
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