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Apple Phone Announced ! (pg. 5)
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dEsidEL
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Originally posted by aLLsTaR bEn
Yes, fido and rogers both support 3G, man it is fast...it is already availible in the GTA area, all you need is a 3G supported phone and you are good to go. You may need to update your SIM card to a new one but no biggie :D




looks like i'm behind then.. can't find any info on 3G on either Fido or Rogers' site. Do they still charge you the same rates for data?

urban_legend
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Originally posted by dEsidEL


looks like i'm behind then.. can't find any info on 3G on either Fido or Rogers' site. Do they still charge you the same rates for data?



Yes sir same rates, why do you think you pay the System access fee?
Durafei
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Originally posted by E2EK1EL
When I see an Apple product on ppl = Moronic dumb ass bitches who doesn't know anything about computers and assume it's all "click and drag"



LOL. Extremely funny and wrong statement, considering that here, in Silicon Valley, I see a lot of people, pioneers of high-tech, really smart guys, all using Apple Products.
starsearcher
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Originally posted by Durafei
LOL. Extremely funny and wrong statement, considering that here, in Silicon Valley, I see a lot of people, pioneers of high-tech, really smart guys, all using Apple Products.


;)
mecha
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Originally posted by Durafei
LOL. Extremely funny and wrong statement, considering that here, in Silicon Valley, I see a lot of people, pioneers of high-tech, really smart guys, all using Apple Products.


This is true statement, working in IT industry I see more and more users are switching toward apple, I am considering switch for this year as well, (waiting for Leopard)
Cosmic Fur
So how is the Mac OS better than XP or Linux?

What can it do that XP can't? Cause I can name so many things I can do on XP that you can't do on OSX.
urban_legend
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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
So how is the Mac OS better than XP or Linux?

What can it do that XP can't? Cause I can name so many things I can do on XP that you can't do on OSX.




Like hook up half the technology out up up to it?

I do admit though the OSX is more stable
Durafei
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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
What can it do that XP can't? Cause I can name so many things I can do on XP that you can't do on OSX.


Expect that to change in the next 5-10 years.

Historically, people were reluctant to buy Macs because there wasn't much software for it. Macs had very little market share and a result software vendors weren't writing software for it(because they wouldn't make money). (Sort of a Chicken and Egg problem: users didn't buy Macs because there was no software. Software vendors weren't writing software because there weren't enough users).

In all likelihood this will change for the following reasons:

1) Many apps are now Web Based, and so can run on Macs.
2) Essential non-web based apps such as browser, music player, video player, office are now available for Mac.

Note: 1 and 2 in itself covers about 90% of use cases for computers. It doesn't cover games, but with the popularity of XBOXes, PlayStations and Wii fewer and fewer people will buy computers to play games.

That's not all. There is more:
3) Mac is now based on Intel, and Apple has recently released BootCamp which allows you to boot Windows XP. Essentially that means that you can buy a Mac without any fear. After all, if there is an app that requires Windows, you can boot windows from that same Mac.

For all the above reasons, more and more people should start buying Macs. Therefore, software vendors will start writing apps for Macs. Therefore in the near future, there will be absolutely no reason to buy XP.
TheVrk
The phone looks PIMP...but way too expensive
dallastar
looks nice, but way to much money at this time - when it's goes down in price it's still a maybe for me to get it, I have enough god damn phones!

Cosmic Fur
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Originally posted by Durafei
Expect that to change in the next 5-10 years.

Historically, people were reluctant to buy Macs because there wasn't much software for it. Macs had very little market share and a result software vendors weren't writing software for it(because they wouldn't make money). (Sort of a Chicken and Egg problem: users didn't buy Macs because there was no software. Software vendors weren't writing software because there weren't enough users).

In all likelihood this will change for the following reasons:

1) Many apps are now Web Based, and so can run on Macs.
2) Essential non-web based apps such as browser, music player, video player, office are now available for Mac.

Note: 1 and 2 in itself covers about 90% of use cases for computers. It doesn't cover games, but with the popularity of XBOXes, PlayStations and Wii fewer and fewer people will buy computers to play games.

That's not all. There is more:
3) Mac is now based on Intel, and Apple has recently released BootCamp which allows you to boot Windows XP. Essentially that means that you can buy a Mac without any fear. After all, if there is an app that requires Windows, you can boot windows from that same Mac.

For all the above reasons, more and more people should start buying Macs. Therefore, software vendors will start writing apps for Macs. Therefore in the near future, there will be absolutely no reason to buy XP.


Okay, that's great, too bad the people you were talking about are using Macs today, not 5-10 years in the future. So essentially, you described a set of very smart people who for some reason decided to continue making life a pain the ass for them for another 5-10 years (got some masochistic people there over in Silicon Valley, eh?) I would also like to point out that those high-tech guys that you said were all using Macs wouldn't be using just browser and e-mail, unless by "high tech" you meant "high-paid" executives who just browse the web all day while listening to their iPod, and send out useless e-mail after useless e-mail.

But most importantly, you spent a great deal of time explaining to me how in 5 to 10 years Macs will finally catch up to PCs and how you now can run both a Mac and XP on the same machine (which people have been doing with 3-rd party apps for some time now), but didn't answer my original question:

"What can Macs do that PCs can't?" Cause see, I need a bigger reason to switch to Macs than just "oh well you can do everything you can on a PC on a Mac now" to actually switch. My PC can do everything a PC can do too, so why would I switch to Mac? Because everything wouldn't work how I'm used to, and I got sick of being able to right-click?
Durafei
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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
I would also like to point out that those high-tech guys that you said were all using Macs wouldn't be using just browser and e-mail, unless by "high tech" you meant "high-paid" executives who just browse the web all day while listening to their iPod, and send out useless e-mail after useless e-mail.


Nope. I'm not talking about executives. I'm talking about developers, yes developers who write software, browser the web, listen to music, etc. I'm talking about developers who got tired of how unstable and complicated Windows is.

BTW: Here is what hi-tech guys do with their computers (a little inside info, hehe)
1) Browser the web
2) Listen to music
3) Write useless emails
4) Watch videos
5) Write code
Note: I don't require Windows do do any of those things.

Now to your question: Why should you switch to Mac ?
I'm not convincing you to switch. I'm just saying that in likelihood Mac's market share will be much greater than it is right now for the reasons I described in my earlier post. People switch, and will continue switching because Mac is a better computer. It's beautiful, software works, doesn't crash, and Apple's marketing team is doing a good job as well.
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