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PS3 a "total disaster on so many levels" (pg. 3)
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| Yan |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
would love to have you! youre like me, you love gaming- not systems. the anti/pro stuff in here lately has been giving me the right s. whats the point?
as ive stated before, the idiots that crow about the so-called demise of their next gen competition dont realise how much they depend upon that system for competition and quality future releases. get over it children! |
The point is to try and drill opinionated crap into our minds to try and come over to one's camp. Obviously this is silly. People should just open their eyes and ears and accept that there's no one right side at any point in time. So taking sides only limits your exposure to all the great games out there. This encompasses PC a great deal, as well. Let me tell you... There's nothing quite like playing Far Cry on a quality PC. I can't even begin to fathom how great Crysis will be.
Haha. You can't imagine how on the ball you are with those last two sentences. It's like you read my mind.
| quote: | Originally posted by Fledz
Of course, that's what consoles are about. You use them, then you buy something new in a few years. They aren't made to be upgraded. |
A touchy subject, actually.
Sony touts that the PS3 will have a 10 year shelf life.
How likely is this to happen? Who knows. Does it have that much untapped potential that it'll still wow after more than half a decade, the usual time when a successor for a console is released? One can only guess. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yan
I can't even begin to fathom how great Crysis will be. |
just one of the many 2007 reasons why i splurged almost $700AU on a graphics card :) that, and supreme commander have me very excited in the trousers :toothless |
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| stren |
i want a Wii!
too bad Nintendo was never big on polish market, and it doesn't look like they are going to promote the brand now, with only 1000 consoles in the first shipment :( |
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| Fledz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yan
A touchy subject, actually.
Sony touts that the PS3 will have a 10 year shelf life.
How likely is this to happen? Who knows. Does it have that much untapped potential that it'll still wow after more than half a decade, the usual time when a successor for a console is released? One can only guess. |
That's their marketing department going into overdrive. I bet the fineprint for that statement is:
It will sit in a cupboard or on the VCR, you will ocassionaly use it for DVDs, but you will have moved on to another platform for games long before that 10 years is up. |
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| kid nyce |
i've given up on this section to tell you the truth
there is NOTHING helpful except people bickering
i'll stick to the psp thread and please keep all that argument out of there, i don't need to read that anymore.
people say to relax when others criticize the ps3, why cant those criticizing just relax and stop putting the ps3 in the light like that - same different spin |
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| verndogs |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
man, my new PC is gonna outlive both the 360 & PS3 and its gonna run faster, look better, and make me coffee. sweet. |
and burn 10 holes in your pocket :p |
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| Rodrico |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
man, my new PC is gonna outlive both the 360 & PS3 and its gonna run faster, look better, and make me coffee. sweet. |
Meh, Im saving up for my new computer for come summer time, gonna look to spend around 2k on tower/hardware alone so I will be happy with my purchase for the next two years. :p
In the meanwhile I picked up a WII to have loads of fun with. |
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| DarkAngel |
| quote: | Originally posted by verndogs
and burn 10 holes in your pocket :p |
Forget the pocket, that's gonna burn all of his pants! :wtf:
j/k pkc |
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| Spam |
| quote: | Originally posted by TeKnoHe@d2025
PS3 has problems? Do you have a PS3? My PS3 that I waited 2 days for on launch doesn't have a single problem, it runs flawless. It doesn't overheat like a 360 or die after a year like the 360 chipset. |
The problems with the 360 were in the minority, any 360 released after the first couple of months has those problems fixed. To be fair, I wasn't all that impressed with 360's launch either, but Geometry Wars has convinced me, I need an XBox 360. I don't have PS3 actually, I already have a doorstop.
| quote: | | Oh my, Sony has met demand and shipped over enough units (a million to be exact) to actually stock the shelves. GASP! :eyes: Sure Nintendo is selling units like crazy they've been in this the longest, and the Wii is a great system (I own one and I'm currently loving Zelda). |
Sony only met demand because demand dropped like a brick 3 weeks after it's launch. If Sony's projected demand were reality, PS3 would still be selling for 2000 bucks on Ebay. The reality factor says Sony undershipped even their lowest projected ammount of units, but the system is thus far a huge dissapointment, and demand has plummeted.
| quote: | | On to the launches, the 360 launch was as much of a disaster as the PS3 so I don't want to hear anybody defending Micro$oft. The Nintendo launch went over pretty well, but had Wii Sports not been packaged in and Zelda not a launch title I can't see anything that would warrant me owning a Wii to this point. |
360's launch was probably the worst launch of the 3, I agree. PS3's launch was still , but unlike 360, the PS3 was easily obtained at retail before Christmas. Nintendo's launch was by far the best of the 3, and your 'but if' is moot, because the fact is they DID release the system with Wii Sports and launched with Zelda.
| quote: | | I've said it before and I'll say it again, $600 is alot but you get more than enough for your money. The Wii is going to look very dated in about 2 years, due to the slightly better than Gamecube graphics. They may be able to keep it fresh with innovative gameplay, a large factor in my opinion, but there is a large majority of casual gamers that base consoles off of graphical power. |
600 dollars is a bargain if you actually give a about Blu-Ray. I'm of the opinion that the vast majority of gamers and casual gamers want a gaming console to be centered around games, with the Blu-Ray player an option like the HD DVD drive for the 360. I agree that the Wii will look dated in a few years graphically, but 360 and PS3 ALREADY seem dated because of their inferior control mechanisms. The strength of the Wii, though, is that most people with a PS3 OR a 360 will also get a Wii, which will greatly increase it's market share.
| quote: | | Now for Micro$oft and the "Bigger is better" claim... Sure, they tried it and still got their ass handed to them by Sony. What did they do to resolve this? Released a more powerful system and abandoned the old one almost before their new console launched. |
Yeah, Microsoft got their asses handed to them... that was my point :) Sony's about to experience the same thing.
| quote: | | Controllers: Sure Sony's Sixaxis doesn't have rumble, but that doesn't go without reason. If you recall they had the sued out of them from another company that claimed Sony had stolen the technology. I don't have a problem with the Dualshock, I think it's a great controller. Anybody remember the Xbox "Big Mac" controller? Then Micro$oft designed a smaller version for the Japanese release to accommodate for their smaller hands, but what happened to the Xbox in Japan? That's right, it flopped like a beached whale and Micro$oft released this redesigned controller in North America so they could sell their unsold Japanese stock. |
The lawsuit with Immersion is still in court. Sony will probably lose, but they haven't officially lost the case yet. The official word from Sony is that the Six-Axis resulted in the removal of the rumble technology in their controller. Dualshock is most deffinately NOT a 'great' controller. It WAS great in it's time, but now it's time has passed. Both GameCube and Xbox controllers put the Dualshock to shame, and now the Wiimote-Nunchuck puts ALL other controllers to shame. Sony NEEDED an updated controller with better joysticks, and they didn't even realize it.
| quote: | | Racing games: Until somebody else can come up with a racing game that has the depth, realism, and information that a Gran Turismo game includes then I'm not even going to bother going into detail here. The PS3 will start to sell a few more units once MotorStorm releases in February. There's an 'original' racing game you're looking for. |
I don't like racing games as a rule. Mostly because racing games these days are way TOO realistic for my tastes. I don't particularly like 'realistic' games in general. I play videogames because I want to have fun, not because I want to get frustrated dealing with the simulated real-life limitations I'm trying to escape by playing a game in the first place. Mario Kart, SanFransisco Rush and F-Zero games more than satiate my racing appetite.
To deal with your comment about MotorStorm causing PS3 units to sell, I'm skeptical... It's going to take 2 or 3 great games to turn the anti-Sony shift that's currently happening in the marketplace. |
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| CONNERMAN2000 |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
just one of the many 2007 reasons why i splurged almost $700AU on a graphics card :) that, and supreme commander have me very excited in the trousers :toothless |
I was going to invest in a new PC altogether a few weeks ago, when one of my buddies said to wait until this summer. he said that by then, Vista will be out and will likely have a lot of its bugs fixed, and most of the better graphics cards available will not only be more affordable, but all of them will take advantage of directX10. is he talking out of his ass or is this a good recommendation? there are so many PC games i have yet to even try (company of heroes comes to mind), in addition to the ones that havent come out yet that ill wanna dig into as well (such as C&C 3 and Crysis of course)
| quote: | Originally posted by kid nyce
there is NOTHING helpful except people bickering |
Ill take a lot of the blame for that. Im a member of another gaming forum where the whole point of the forum is to debate/argue until the posters get bored or run out of things to say. sometimes i accidentally bring that mentality here on TA, which is unnecessary and uncalled for considering the chill-out atmosphere of these forums. my apologies.
| quote: | Originally posted by Fledz
That's their marketing department going into overdrive. I bet the fineprint for that statement is: |
I see your point, and its a good one. But realistically, you have to consider this: how much money does it cost to create a new product? how much money will sony make as a result of creating said product? what i'm asking here is, wouldnt it be more profitable to continue to support an already-released and already-established console rather than release a new one altogether and go through that whole 'lose-money-on-every-single-console-sold' shananigans all over again? of course, im not Mr. Cleo, and you could very well be calling out Sony's bluff here.
| quote: | Originally posted by Rodrico
In the meanwhile I picked up a WII to have loads of fun with. |
I wish i could do the same, but they are STILL impossible to find.
| quote: | Originally posted by Yan
The PS3's time will come. I have no doubt about this. Sony is a powerhouse and I firmly believe that Kutaragi has some amazing people working under him; ones who are aiming for nothing but first place in the next generation of gaming. True gamers, I believe. |
Agreed 100%. Although there was that article about 6 months ago where that guy from Atari claimed Sony became number 1 'by mistake', i always considered that article to be useless bull, only because you dont sell over 100 million units TWICE IN A ROW by accident. Sony was doing something right, and on purpose. thats just what i think :) |
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| infinity HiGH |
That's hilarious. Not even a year ago Gabe Newell was saying how the Wii looks like it'll be a fad that will fade away once the novelty of the controller wears off.
off Gabe. You're more of an ass than a game designer. |
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| Spam |
| quote: | Originally posted by CONNERMAN2000
The fact of the matter is, if you buy a PS3, thanks to blu-ray, the system will likely last you many more years than the 360 and Wii.
Spam, you said it yourself...Sony might be ahead of their game..which is true, and you pointed out 3-4 years.
But what happens in 3-4 years with the 360? Is Microsoft going to abandon it just like they did the Xbox and release ANOTHER 400 dollar console for all of us to buy? Or how about the Wii? How long is it going to last before Nintendo releases yet another system for all of us to splurge on? |
Do you ACTUALLY believe that the PS3 is going to last gamers 10 years like Sony keeps predicting? I give it 4-5 years, then Microsoft will release the XBox 720, and PS3 will look like a SNES in comparison. We live in an age where computer advancements make current-gen hardware obsolete within 18 months. Theoretically, in 18 months, Microsoft could release a system with twice the power that PS3 currently has. And you think it's going to last longer than Wii or 360?
| quote: | | This is where I'm confident that Sony made the right decision; they are aware that the life expectancy of consoles is increasing. The PS2 is proving this right now...despite 3 next-gen competitors, according to recent NPD sales figures, it was STILL the best selling console of December. |
Of course it was, it's 150 bucks. If a Wii or PS3 isn't available, and/or I'm a parent who refuses to pay 400+ dollars on a gaming console, my next logical choice is to get my kid a PS2 until a price drop occurs on current-gen. Most people who bought one of those many PS2s will regret it by Christmas next year, because by June, PS2 is going to be a distant memory.
| quote: | | Since I have a PS3 in my possession, I am confident that Sony is going to support it as long as its possible. MS ed me with the Xbox by announcing to the world that they were abandoning it. And Nintendo is always one to watch, considering they've released how many versions of the exact same Game Boy? |
MS didn't you, they gave you advanced warning. Nintendo released the Game Boy Advance, then upgraded it to the SP with back-light and making it a flip screen (this was a GOOD call, because the GBA original was not a good handheld due to the lighting issue), after that they released the Game Boy Micro, which is, more than anything, a niche-product for people like me who want a Game Boy that looks like an original Nintendo controller ;). I'm as confident as you that Sony will support the PS3 for as long as possible, I estimate that ammount of time to be about 4-5 years, because by then Microsoft will have their upgraded system out that will be more powerful than the PS3, and Nintendo will have released some hardcore 16-bit virtual reality system or something of the sort that everyone in the world will want. Besides, Nintendo could release TWO brand new systems, and for the price of those 3 systems, I could have purchased a SINGLE PS3... Food for thought.
| quote: | | And who was the one that said a $600 product should be 'flying off the shelves'? Yes, maybe the PS3 is easy to find now, but does that mean its not selling at all? I just strolled through my local mall and saw absolutely no PS3's at both my Best Buy and EB Games (same was the case with the Wii). |
The system was launched recently and is rumoured to have high demand in place for it. If that were true, then it could be assumed that the mere 2 million units available worldwide would already be sold out, but they aren't. The typical answer from Sony fans to this issue is "Wait a year or 2 and sales will pick up", but that isn't realistic because if PS3 isn't selling well by the end of THIS year, developers WILL jump ship and make games for the 360 and Wii exclusively.
Let me make it clear, I'm not anti-Sony at all, but I DO pay careful attention to the videogame market. I have been since the SNES/Sega war of the golden age, and things currently don't look good for Sony, in fact, they look outright HORRIBLE. It's entirely possible they can turn things around, but they have ONE YEAR to do it, not 2, not 3, 1. Now that all 3 systems are out, the people who've been sitting around playing the 'wait and see' game will know what's what by Christmas 2007, and if PS3 isn't in demand by then, it never will be. |
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