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Jesus etc (pg. 8)
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| Orbax |
| quote: | Originally posted by CleverName
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| So, anybody believe Jesus is returning on a cloud soon? |
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| LiquidXtrance |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
No offence to those who are religious, but the bibles teachings are a load of bull honkey!
90% of it contradicts itself. The bible promotes slavery, beating wives and treating them like posessions. It teaches on how you should physically punish your children, your slaves, and your wives. ETC ETC ETC.
I will admit, there are a lot of good teachings in the bible, but there are also a lot of things that don't make sense. |
I dont really recall the parts of beating wives or treating them like posessions parts, slaves and so and so on. If you could show me passages of that Id be happy to read.
The bible's prophets ( up to where it's been correctly translated ) has messeges that reflected a guidance for those times and on. It's like what happened with Moises. The Moises commandments, were waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more stricter then the current ones. You know, what happened when he came down the mountain and realized that he had to come up with linear commandments.... the ones that exist today.
Jesus came and brought with him the word of god, and adapted the teachings according to the people living in that era, culture, etc.. great example was when they were about to kill Mary the prostitute with stones, and jesus said something along the lines of ; if you consider your self free of sins, then have the right to go and throw a rock on her, if not then you have no right to do so, for thy sins are the same as hers... something like that forgot the whole quote. But yeah. |
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| Theresa |
| quote: | Originally posted by LiquidXtrance
I dont really recall the parts of beating wives or treating them like posessions parts, slaves and so and so on. If you could show me passages of that Id be happy to read.
The bible's prophets ( up to where it's been correctly translated ) has messeges that reflected a guidance for those times and on. It's like what happened with Moises. The Moises commandments, were waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more stricter then the current ones. You know, what happened when he came down the mountain and realized that he had to come up with linear commandments.... the ones that exist today.
Jesus came and brought with him the word of god, and adapted the teachings according to the people living in that era, culture, etc.. great example was when they were about to kill Mary the prostitute with stones, and jesus said something along the lines of ; if you consider your self free of sins, then have the right to go and throw a rock on her, if not then you have no right to do so, for thy sins are the same as hers... something like that forgot the whole quote. But yeah. |
Much of what I referenced is in the Old Testament. I would have to pull out my bible to make references right now, but I don't have the time.
For the record though....
I was brought up as a Catholic until I was 12 years old, at which point I was converted into a Pentacostic. My family is INCREDIBLY religious.
I have been baptised three times, I have read the new testament twice, and the old testament once. I have been to innumerable masses at both the Catholic church, and the Pentacostic church. I attended bible readings every Wednesday for several years in my early teens.
Anyway, I do not pull my opinions out of some atheist thin air. I have a very thick rooted foundation built upon christianity. I have done a lot of consideration when it comes to religion and I mean no disrespect to those who are religious, but I do not feel that the bible is an accurate representation of what is.
Anyway, if I had more time and interest to bother doing so, I would ellaborate.. but at the moment I am getting ready to go out. :) Have a good night! |
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| BTG |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
Much of what I referenced is in the Old Testament. I would have to pull out my bible to make references right now, but I don't have the time. |
The old testament is null and void cause the new testament is like an patch for religion. |
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| dallastar |
| Holy Jesus :tongue3 |
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orbax
They got that number mainly by tracing the begats. There is a lot of wiggle room in there and holes enough for science to step in and help fill in timelines.
Science and religion don't really step on one another's toes that often. |
I think how much they step on each others toes depends on how literal an interpretation of scripture religion takes. If the expression "the sun rose" is taken very literally then we can only conclude that the sun revolves around the Earth.
If religion accepts that ultimately the text was written by an imperfect, fallible human being, who may in part have been divinely inspired, then we can accept the fact that just like in any other text (holy or not) it is riddled with figures of speech, exaggerations, cultural artefacts etc...
Why so many religious people have trouble moving on from literal interpretation is beyond me - God gave you the ability to reason so you could apply it to scripture, in it's proper cultural and historical context and the world around you (supposedly his creation) and understand his will. How anyone can believe in a God that gives them the ability to think rationally, but demands that they do not use it is bizarre. |
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| Orbax |
| quote: | Originally posted by astroboy
How anyone can believe in a God that gives them the ability to think rationally, but demands that they do not use it is bizarre. |
Aquinas |
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| jonSun |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fast Turtle
That's not Jesus, that's God (two very different people in philosophy).
God, as from the old testament, was a big fan of judging and slaughtering non-worshippers. |
Well that was the Jews who still like to do that to this day. |
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orbax
Aquinas |
Don't know anything about him I'm afraid. Despite having gone to a Catholic school for 5 years then an Anglican one for 7 years my knowledge of Christian theology is near non-existent. |
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| Dj O'Callaghan |
I don't believe or agree with any religion. |
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| Lilith |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan
I don't believe or agree with any religion. |
Not even Santa's or the Easter bunny's birthdays? :eek: |
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