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Chatroom users 'egged on father to kill himself live on webcam'!!!!!! (pg. 5)
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| SuspicionVandit |
| quote: | Originally posted by SebG
I have no respect for people that commit suicide. Its my ing opinion, go cry about it. |
that's like saying "i have no respect for someone who rapes women." yeahhhhhh, i don't think they care if they have your respect or not. they have their prerogatives (ending suffering, attention whoring, sympathy, etc) but gaining respect? yeahhhhhhhh, ummm, ok |
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| all-nite-freak |
| I would have asked him to give his personal and credit info during an online conversation so he could go with an adrenaline high. |
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| UWM |
| quote: | Originally posted by all-nite-freak
I would have asked him to give his personal and credit info during an online conversation so he could go with an adrenaline high. |
Wow, you're going to Hell. But so am I, because I lol'd. |
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| Simon |
| lol Paltalk, no wonder. |
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| Frenchie |
Hmm, I wonder who else is going to follow in this guys footsteps and hang themselves via chat room web caming.
"A new craze has been sweeping online chat room web camers called "Virtual Hangings".
After the sudden death of a young father was captured on a live web stream, strings of virtual hangings have been happening across the world. yadda yadda yaddaa....
I'm sure we will hear of more to come, sadly. |
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| Theresa |
| quote: | Originally posted by SebG
I have no respect for people that kill themselves.
It doesnt matter if people egged him on or not. This wasnt an impulse choice. This is most likely a very long episode that he wanted to end in front of people. |
Not necessarily... sometimes people wont even consider it until right before they get the opportunity.
| quote: | Originally posted by venomX
Not necessarily. Many suicides happen on an impulse, that's why people that are impulsive are more prone to commit suicide. He didn't necessarily planned it, maybe it just fit into what he felt. And as far as having no respect for people that commit suicide, more than 90% of people that do it have a mental disorder. Would you lose respect for someone who is sick? I mean seriously, you're saying it like their normal, mentally balanced people and that they are in complete control of their senses. Sadly that's not the case. |
Brilliant post.
| quote: | Originally posted by SuspicionVandit
+1
except for the fact that all suicidal people are sick.
they all dont have mental illnesses.
John O'Callaghan is right. a good number of these people do it for attention. some people bring it upon themselves by refusing to accept treament sending them down a spiral and off a cliff. some people cut, burn themselves, all the same thing |
I disagree.
Natural human instinct is to survive as long as possible, at all costs. For a human to be inclined to go against their primitive conditioning is a sign in and of itself that there is a problem within the brain. Whether you want to call it "sick" or not, they are not thinking the way a normal person should be, and thus are not acting accordingly.
| quote: | Originally posted by Frenchie
You have respect for someone who selfishly takes their life away? He had friends, family and most importantly kids. If you feel the need to want to kill yourself that's a huge warning sign to get checked, get help, check yourself in. I don't know what it's like to want to kill yourself nor have I gone through any type of serious depression but I do know people who have and I know that they have all gotten themselves checked and are slowly but surely recovering. Don't say that someone who has no respect for someone who wants to commit suicide is ignorant. It's not that I don't not have respect for them, but I don't think very highly if at all of them. |
Ok, this is going to sound harsh, but it isn't personally directed at you Tricia.
It aggravates me to no end when people who know absolutely nothing about a situation, and even admit that they don't, proceed to make judgement calls and yammer on like they have a ing clue.
I have suffered from serious depression. I have walked a mile in those shoes. It IS ignorant to say that these people are selfish and stupid; that is not a fair judgement to make. |
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| Frenchie |
Ok? And?
So sue me for having an opinion on this rubbishness. So what I had a pretty in' fantastic life growing up no need to deal with harsh issues. I had the normal family bull but who these days doesn't. ( Well no I had a few serious issues but I worked my way out of it) Don't blame me because someone can't control their problems and won't get help or had dug their selves so far down a hole that they can't get out of ( probably because they didn't get help in the first place).
Ya I don't know much but I really have no choice but to look at it this way and to think and feel what I do. I don't think there is need for it to begin with (The act of suicide). There is always a positive way out of any situation if you can't find it I feel bad for you , seriously.
I'm ignorant, I admit it. Show me and prove to me why I shouldn't be and I'll change my mind. |
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| Lilith |
| quote: | Originally posted by Frenchie
Ya I don't know much but I really have no choice but to look at it this way and to think and feel what I do. I don't think there is need for it to begin with (The act of suicide). There is always a positive way out of any situation if you can't find it I feel bad for you , seriously.
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I think objectivity when faced with a lot of unfortunate things all at once, makes people a bit myopic at the coal face. It can be fairly hard to step back, assess and work it out when all they feel is railroaded down a certain course of activity as those events they're struggling with come in one after another.
That just doesn't apply to suicidal people either, it can happen in the workplace or anywhere else you have things happening outside your ability to control or influence. Especially when you try, don't succeed and get knocked back a metaphorical peg, that happens to everyone, some get back up and keep clawing along, others just get knocked down that bit further.
Of course in 20-20 hindsight it seems so simple.
Not being a bitch to you missy, it's just a fact of life that everyone has trouble at some point and a lot of support just isn't there for them... and always a heap ready just to dump crap on you for trying. |
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| Theresa |
http://www.nimh.nih.gov/suicideprev.../suicidefaq.cfm
| quote: | As many as 95 percent of suicide victims suffered from mental illness. And there lies the real problem.
Between 14 million and 25 million Americans suffer from a serious mental disorder, according to national studies.
Depression, which can become a serious illness, affects some 20 million Americans - more than coronary heart disease, cancer and AIDS combined.
Research indicates that those who have recurring bouts of depression have a one-in-five likelihood of dying by suicide. |
http://www.pennlive.com/news/patrio...icide_main.html
| quote: | | Self harm is a behavior with a complex psychological basis. Although suicidal tendency can be the case, sufferers are not necessarily wanting to suicide, or even thinking of suicide. In some cases of wanting to die, self harm occurs as a coping strategy, such as in schizophrenia. In other cases, self harm is not related to suicidal thoughts, but may occur due to guilt or other thought patterns. For example, self harm may be used as punishment when a person has done something wrong (e.g. a high achiever failing at some task). Self harm may also be used by sufferers to temporarily blunt emotional pain. Self harm is a serious disorder, requiring immediate intervention, because of both the risk of suicide in those with a suicide-related motivation, and the risk of unintentional death from self-sustained fatal injury even in those without suicidal thoughts. Seek immediate professional medical and psychological care for any type of self harm. (Source: WD Writers) |
http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/s/self_harm/intro.htm
| quote: | Biological and genetic links to suicide
Evidence suggests that genetic factors may increase the risk of suicidal behavior. Major psychiatric illnesses, such as bipolar disorder and schizophrenia, may have a genetic link.
On the other hand, suicidal behavior could be influenced more by a tendency toward impulsive behavior than by a specific psychiatric illness. Identifying people at increased risk could lead to earlier recognition and better treatment of those illnesses or behaviors and, as a result, lessen suicidal behavior.
In addition, suicidal behavior may be linked, at least in part, to a decrease in the brain of the neurotransmitter serotonin. Medications that increase levels of serotonin may help reduce suicidal behavior. |
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/suicide/MH00053 |
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| Theresa |
| People who are considering suicide are not in a right state of mind. There is some kind of disorder that is encouraging them to make that decision, which is often incited by a series of bad instances in their life. Normal, well balanced people DO NOT ATTEMPT TO KILL THEMSELVES. |
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| Frenchie |
No see I understand what you and Theresa are saying and yes I do take it in and comprehend it but I just can't see how someone has NO one to turn to. There are people who work specifically for people who have no one , no family, no friends, no support. I guess I am more confused towards the people who deny help when offered yet complain, go psychotic complain some more. You have problems yet you don't do anything about yet you try and suck people into your nasty dark hole with no intention of letting them help you but you want them there just to miserable.
For the cases of the ones who do have people around them yet commit suicide I call it selfish, not not selfish. You have people around you ( some who would have your back), and you decide to take your life away from them with out letting them help you or letting them know you have problems ahead of time when you could be helped.
The man who did this gets no sympathy from me regardless. I knew not of him, anything about him or what he did in life and what *specifically and seriously* drove him to this but there is always something else to do, to turn to , to walk away to.
Sorry.
Where are the links to the studies that show you can be helped. I know they exists.
ALSO.. people who commit suicide because they are in debt, have a bookie after them, maybe owe money for drugs..sorry no sympathy there either. I guess those people give a bad name to the ones who commit a "legit" suicide ( which there is no such thing ). |
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